Dodecad K7b Ancient West Eurasia [By Eupedia Team]

**Salento** · 29-09-20, 15:48

Dod K7b Ancient Multi:
(Ancestry, 23v4, 23v5, LivDNA, NatGeo)

http://vahaduo.genetics.ovh/dodecad-...nt-vahaduo.htm

**Regio X** · 29-09-20, 15:48

#112

Distance to:	RegioX_FTDNA
2.27964910	Balkans_BronzeAge:I3313_Croatia_LBA
2.32264935	Balkans_BronzeAge:I4332__Croatia_EMBA
2.36522726	C7_Iron_Age_European:R474_(Etruscan)_Civitavecchia
2.44161832	Balkans_BronzeAge:I4331_Croatia_EMBA
2.52446034	C7_Medieval_European:R55_Villa_Magna
2.64830134	C7_Late_Antiquity_European:R105_Crypta_Balbi
2.88262034	Foggia_MA:VK538
3.48406372	C7_Late_Antiquity_European:R33_Mausole_di_Augusto
3.59956942	France_IA:ERS88
3.71224999	C7_Iron_Age_European:R1_(Protovillanovan)_Martinsi curo
4.14416457	Balkans_BronzeAge:I2165_Bulgaria_EBA
4.38636524	France_IA:NOR3-15
5.02288762	C7_Medieval_European:R1221_Cancelleria
5.29826387	C7_Late_Antiquity_European:R110_Crypta_Balbi
6.58378311	C7_Late_Antiquity_European:R109_Crypta_Balbi
6.96886648	C7_Iron_Age_European:R1016_(Latini)_Castel_di_Deci ma
7.10320350	Sardinia_EMA:I12221_Grotta_Colombi
7.13066617	C7_Medieval_European:R61_Villa_Magna
7.69695394	C7_Late_Antiquity_European:R108_Crypta_Balbi
7.92543374	Vucedol:I3499_Croatia_Vucedol
8.19180688	C7_Medieval_European:R1224_Cancelleria
8.47549409	C7_Medieval_European:R1220_Cancelleria
8.67151659	Sicily_EBA:I11443_Buffa_Cave_II
8.83163631	C7_Iron_Age_European:R1021_(Latini)_Boville_Ernica
8.98988320	France_IA:NOR2B6

Distance to:	RegioX_23andMe_v4
2.17832504	Balkans_BronzeAge:I3313_Croatia_LBA
2.26918488	C7_Medieval_European:R55_Villa_Magna
2.41035267	Balkans_BronzeAge:I4332__Croatia_EMBA
2.46495436	C7_Iron_Age_European:R474_(Etruscan)_Civitavecchia
2.67574289	Balkans_BronzeAge:I4331_Croatia_EMBA
2.77369789	Foggia_MA:VK538
2.86674031	C7_Late_Antiquity_European:R105_Crypta_Balbi
3.41354654	C7_Iron_Age_European:R1_(Protovillanovan)_Martinsi curo
3.48918329	C7_Late_Antiquity_European:R33_Mausole_di_Augusto
3.98705405	France_IA:ERS88
4.36662341	Balkans_BronzeAge:I2165_Bulgaria_EBA
4.78507053	France_IA:NOR3-15
5.36890119	C7_Medieval_European:R1221_Cancelleria
5.61108724	C7_Late_Antiquity_European:R110_Crypta_Balbi
6.80611490	Sardinia_EMA:I12221_Grotta_Colombi
6.98852631	C7_Late_Antiquity_European:R109_Crypta_Balbi
7.22436156	C7_Iron_Age_European:R1016_(Latini)_Castel_di_Deci ma
7.53528367	C7_Medieval_European:R61_Villa_Magna
7.56633333	Vucedol:I3499_Croatia_Vucedol
8.01211583	C7_Late_Antiquity_European:R108_Crypta_Balbi
8.49384483	C7_Medieval_European:R1224_Cancelleria
8.75183981	C7_Medieval_European:R1220_Cancelleria
9.02668821	Sicily_EBA:I11443_Buffa_Cave_II
9.10718947	Beaker_N_Italy_BA:I1979
9.22689005	C7_Iron_Age_European:R1021_(Latini)_Boville_Ernica

Distance to:	Father_23andMe_v4
2.29242230	Balkans_BronzeAge:I3313_Croatia_LBA
2.33334524	C7_Medieval_European:R55_Villa_Magna
2.55974608	Balkans_BronzeAge:I4332__Croatia_EMBA
2.64164721	Foggia_MA:VK538
2.71121744	C7_Iron_Age_European:R474_(Etruscan)_Civitavecchia
2.98574949	Balkans_BronzeAge:I4331_Croatia_EMBA
3.09210284	C7_Late_Antiquity_European:R105_Crypta_Balbi
3.32216797	C7_Iron_Age_European:R1_(Protovillanovan)_Martinsi curo
3.64256778	C7_Late_Antiquity_European:R33_Mausole_di_Augusto
4.30535713	France_IA:ERS88
4.35013793	Balkans_BronzeAge:I2165_Bulgaria_EBA
5.00333889	France_IA:NOR3-15
5.30710844	C7_Medieval_European:R1221_Cancelleria
5.85723484	C7_Late_Antiquity_European:R110_Crypta_Balbi
6.76250693	Sardinia_EMA:I12221_Grotta_Colombi
7.26590669	C7_Late_Antiquity_European:R109_Crypta_Balbi
7.46211096	C7_Iron_Age_European:R1016_(Latini)_Castel_di_Deci ma
7.46724179	Vucedol:I3499_Croatia_Vucedol
7.71398730	C7_Medieval_European:R61_Villa_Magna
8.09287959	C7_Late_Antiquity_European:R108_Crypta_Balbi
8.45080470	C7_Medieval_European:R1224_Cancelleria
8.74816552	C7_Medieval_European:R1220_Cancelleria
9.03504289	Sicily_EBA:I11443_Buffa_Cave_II
9.33234161	Beaker_N_Italy_BA:I1979
9.51618621	C7_Iron_Age_European:R1021_(Latini)_Boville_Ernica

Distance to:	Mother_23andMe_v4
2.39006276	France_IA:ERS88
2.51027887	France_IA:NOR3-15
2.66191660	Balkans_BronzeAge:I4331_Croatia_EMBA
2.70983394	C7_Late_Antiquity_European:R105_Crypta_Balbi
3.03315018	Balkans_BronzeAge:I4332__Croatia_EMBA
3.12860991	C7_Iron_Age_European:R474_(Etruscan)_Civitavecchia
3.21126143	Balkans_BronzeAge:I2165_Bulgaria_EBA
3.33177130	C7_Medieval_European:R1221_Cancelleria
3.62727170	Balkans_BronzeAge:I3313_Croatia_LBA
3.81984293	Foggia_MA:VK538
4.32030092	C7_Medieval_European:R55_Villa_Magna
4.32976905	C7_Late_Antiquity_European:R110_Crypta_Balbi
4.43921164	C7_Late_Antiquity_European:R33_Mausole_di_Augusto
4.92289549	C7_Late_Antiquity_European:R109_Crypta_Balbi
5.16719460	C7_Medieval_European:R61_Villa_Magna
5.33879200	C7_Iron_Age_European:R1_(Protovillanovan)_Martinsi curo
6.05073549	C7_Late_Antiquity_European:R108_Crypta_Balbi
6.38003135	C7_Iron_Age_European:R1016_(Latini)_Castel_di_Deci ma
6.59298112	C7_Medieval_European:R1224_Cancelleria
6.75860193	Sicily_EBA:I11443_Buffa_Cave_II
6.93059161	France_IA:NOR2B6
6.98652274	C7_Medieval_European:R1220_Cancelleria
7.24351434	C7_Iron_Age_European:R1021_(Latini)_Boville_Ernica
8.51012926	C7_Medieval_European:R1289_Cancelleria
8.83374213	Sardinia_EMA:I12221_Grotta_Colombi

**bigsnake49** · 29-09-20, 16:56

Distance to:	Bigsnake49
6.35141716	Vucedol:I3499_Croatia_Vucedol
7.38468686	C6_Late_Antiquity_Mediterranean:R36_Celio
8.05181967	C6_Imperial_Mediterranean:R111_Via_Paisiello_Necro polis
8.13468500	Sardinia_EMA:I12221_Grotta_Colombi
8.26833720	C6_Medieval_Mediterranean:R970_Tivoli_Palazzo_Cian ti
8.86087467	C6_Imperial_Mediterranean:R1549_Monterotondo
9.14508611	C7_Iron_Age_European:R1_(Protovillanovan)_Martinsi curo
10.25396021	C7_Medieval_European:R55_Villa_Magna
10.30012621	C6_Medieval_Mediterranean:R1283_Cancelleria
10.49906663	C6_Medieval_Mediterranean:R1285_Cancelleria
10.58835681	C6_Late_Antiquity_Mediterranean:R120_S_Ercolano_Ne cropolis_Ostia
10.70222874	C6_Medieval_Mediterranean:R969_Tivoli_Palazzo_Cian ti
10.74448230	C6_Late_Antiquity_Mediterranean:R121_S_Ercolano_Ne cropolis_Ostia
10.80312455	C6_Medieval_Mediterranean:R60_Villa_Magna
11.07203685	Foggia_MA:VK536
11.12405502	C6_Medieval_Mediterranean:R1287_Cancelleria
11.12653585	Balkans_BronzeAge:I3313_Croatia_LBA
11.15909943	Foggia_MA:VK538
12.01743317	C7_Late_Antiquity_European:R33_Mausole_di_Augusto
12.07701950	C6_Imperial_Mediterranean:R836_Civitanova_Marche
12.11601420	C6_Imperial_Mediterranean:R835_Civitanova_Marche
12.16554972	C6_Late_Antiquity_Mediterranean:R118_S_Ercolano_Ne cropolis_Ostia
12.21308724	Balkans_BronzeAge:I4332__Croatia_EMBA
12.29244890	C7_Iron_Age_European:R474_(Etruscan)_Civitavecchia
12.52288305	C6_Imperial_Mediterranean:R113_Via_Paisiello_Necro polis

**bigsnake49** · 29-09-20, 17:46

....and the averages:

Distance to:	Bigsnake49
9.14508611	Protovillanovan_IA
13.46754164	Italy_Mediterranean_C6
16.05406958	Etruscan_IA
19.57769593	Latini_IA
19.64430197	Villanovan_IA
19.93649982	Mycenaean
22.33434998	Beaker_N_Italy_BA
23.14589812	Latin_Prenestini_Tribe_IA
25.92195692	Italy_E_Mediterranean_C5
26.13319728	Alberstedt_LN
26.51611430	France_IA
26.80775448	LBKT_EN
28.55979048	Armenian_LBA
29.07924202	Beaker_Germany_LN
29.10471974	Yamnaya
29.14614170	France_BA
29.91461850	Anatolia_ChL
30.33207049	Imp_Rome_North_African_C3
30.47894355	Beaker_Sicily_BA
30.63614205	Greece_Neolithic
30.89318012	Anatolian_BA
30.96713419	BenzigerodeHeimburg_LN
31.36770632	Esperstedt_MN
31.57983726	C_Italian_Neolithic
31.72124560	Baalberge_MN

**Duarte** · 29-09-20, 19:47

Dodecad K7b - Some Iberian samples from Roman Iberia, Medieval Iberia, plus the Roman Soldier_FN2

Source:

Code:

RomanSoldier_FN_2,0,7.73,0.24,3.09,25,62.76,1.19
EarlyMedievalAndalusia_I3584,0,8.47,0.09,2.75,28.54,58.52,1.63
EarlyMedievalAndalusia_I3585,1.09,9.01,0.91,3.16,31.97,53.67,0.21
EarlyMedievalIberiaGranada_I3981,0,10.91,0,4.28,32.53,51.91,0.37
RomanVillaGranadaSpain_I3982,0,7.79,0.68,4.87,34.47,52.19,0
RomanVillaGranadaSpain_I3983,0,12.09,0,5.98,37.14,43.91,0.89
CarthagoMaghrebiAndalusia_I7457,0,10.19,0,7.01,33.69,49.11,0
CarolingianSettlementBarcelona_I7673,1.4,8.5,0,0.64,27.68,61.17,0.61
CarolingianSettlementBarcelona_I7675,0,7.27,0,1.12,27.36,63.47,0.78
GironaSantJuliadeRamis_I10852,1.99,9.12,0,1.69,26.20,61,0
GironaSantJuliadeRamis_I10853,1.36,11.07,0,1.68,29.33,56.56,0
GalloRomanCeltMixIberia_I10866,0.33,5,0.78,6.23,27.53,60.14,0
GironaSantJuliadeRamis_I10892,0.21,10.18,0.24,1.52,28.53,58.85,0.47
GironaSantJuliadeRamis_I10895,0,8.58,0.17,1.62,29.37,59.86,0.39
PortugueseCordobaCaliphate_I12514,0,8.58,1.57,3.15,29.37,56.66,0.67
SpaniardCordobaCaliphate_I12515,0,12.15,0,2.76,32.25,51.62,1.22
PortugueseCordobaCaliphate_I12516,0,10.12,0.32,2.9,29.76,56.68,0.22
MedievalTaifaofValencia_I12649,0,14.79,0.71,1.52,29.59,53.39,0

My results:

Distance to:	Duarte
4.87655616	PortugueseCordobaCaliphate_I12514
4.96405077	EarlyMedievalAndalusia_I3584
5.26381991	PortugueseCordobaCaliphate_I12516
5.82155478	GalloRomanCeltMixIberia_I10866
6.29609403	GironaSantJuliadeRamis_I10892
6.42997667	GironaSantJuliadeRamis_I10853
6.88409035	GironaSantJuliadeRamis_I10895
7.23286942	EarlyMedievalAndalusia_I3585
7.28958161	GironaSantJuliadeRamis_I10852
7.64748978	RomanSoldier_FN_2
8.01921443	CarolingianSettlementBarcelona_I7673
8.11814018	EarlyMedievalIberiaGranada_I3981
8.96576823	SpaniardCordobaCaliphate_I12515
9.02221702	MedievalTaifaofValencia_I12649
9.27494474	CarolingianSettlementBarcelona_I7675
9.31091832	RomanVillaGranadaSpain_I3982
10.31672429	CarthagoMaghrebiAndalusia_I7457
16.63418468	RomanVillaGranadaSpain_I3983

PS:
1) The label of sample I7457 nowadays in MTA is Carthago Al-Andalus Alhama de Granada and no more CarthagoMaghrebAndalusia.
2) The sample previously labeled by MTA as GalloRomanCeltMixIberia nowadays is labeled as Roman-Era Empuries.

**Duarte** · 29-09-20, 19:57

My results with data source of posts #112 more #130

Distance to:	Duarte
4.87655616	PortugueseCordobaCaliphate_I12514
4.96405077	EarlyMedievalAndalusia_I3584
5.26381991	PortugueseCordobaCaliphate_I12516
5.82155478	GalloRomanCeltMixIberia_I10866
6.29609403	GironaSantJuliadeRamis_I10892
6.42997667	GironaSantJuliadeRamis_I10853
6.88409035	GironaSantJuliadeRamis_I10895
7.23286942	EarlyMedievalAndalusia_I3585
7.28958161	GironaSantJuliadeRamis_I10852
7.40809017	C7_Late_Antiquity_European:R110_Crypta_Balbi
7.64748978	RomanSoldier_FN_2
7.94598012	C7_Medieval_European:R61_Villa_Magna
8.01921443	CarolingianSettlementBarcelona_I7673
8.11814018	EarlyMedievalIberiaGranada_I3981
8.12233341	C7_Iron_Age_European:R1016_(Latini)_Castel_di_Deci ma
8.21397589	France_IA:NOR3-15
8.34727500	C7_Late_Antiquity_European:R109_Crypta_Balbi
8.36759822	C7_Late_Antiquity_European:R105_Crypta_Balbi
8.44770975	C7_Medieval_European:R1289_Cancelleria
8.61048779	C7_Iron_Age_European:R473_(Etruscan)_Civitavecchia
8.71397728	C7_Iron_Age_European:R1021_(Latini)_Boville_Ernica
8.76621355	C7_Medieval_European:R63_Villa_Magna
8.86159692	Balkans_BronzeAge:I4332__Croatia_EMBA
8.96490379	France_IA:ERS88
8.96576823	SpaniardCordobaCaliphate_I12515

PS:
1) The label of sample I7457 nowadays in MTA is Carthago Al-Andalus Alhama de Granada and no more CarthagoMaghrebAndalusia.
2) The sample previously labeled by MTA as GalloRomanCeltMixIberia nowadays is labeled as Roman-Era Empuries.

**Carlos** · 29-09-20, 20:40

Target: Carlos Distance: 0.9870% / 0.98696297
49.6	CarolingianSettlementBarcelona_I7675

24.6	RomanSoldier_FN_2

14.2	MedievalTaifaofValencia_I12649

11.6	GironaSantJuliadeRamis_I10852

Target: Carlos Distance: 1.0871% / 1.08705651 \| ADC: 0.25x
32.8	CarolingianSettlementBarcelona_I7675

28.0	GironaSantJuliadeRamis_I10892

21.8	RomanSoldier_FN_2

17.4	GironaSantJuliadeRamis_I10852

Target: Carlos Distance: 1.1368% / 1.13683027 \| ADC: 0.5x
35.4	CarolingianSettlementBarcelona_I7675

27.8	GironaSantJuliadeRamis_I10852

21.4	GironaSantJuliadeRamis_I10892

15.4	RomanSoldier_FN_2

Target: Carlos Distance: 1.5796% / 1.57957908 \| ADC: 1x
46.2	GironaSantJuliadeRamis_I10852

32.8	CarolingianSettlementBarcelona_I7675

18.2	CarolingianSettlementBarcelona_I7673

2.6	RomanSoldier_FN_2

0.2	GironaSantJuliadeRamis_I10895

Distance to:	Carlos
2.29475489	CarolingianSettlementBarcelona_I7673
2.38165909	GironaSantJuliadeRamis_I10852
2.66771438	CarolingianSettlementBarcelona_I7675
3.04387910	RomanSoldier_FN_2
3.26943420	GironaSantJuliadeRamis_I10895
3.71506393	GironaSantJuliadeRamis_I10892
4.24130876	EarlyMedievalAndalusia_I3584
6.00895166	PortugueseCordobaCaliphate_I12514
6.15742641	PortugueseCordobaCaliphate_I12516
6.23156481	GalloRomanCeltMixIberia_I10866
6.39316041	GironaSantJuliadeRamis_I10853
9.78513669	EarlyMedievalAndalusia_I3585
10.64495655	MedievalTaifaofValencia_I12649
11.89891171	EarlyMedievalIberiaGranada_I3981
12.11340167	SpaniardCordobaCaliphate_I12515
12.71357935	RomanVillaGranadaSpain_I3982
15.43721154	CarthagoMaghrebiAndalusia_I7457
21.35368821	RomanVillaGranadaSpain_I3983

The source samples are not the ones that match my Deep Dives in MTA

This sample is obtained in the shortest distance and yet not in single.

This two sample is in the source but I don't get it in single I12514 and I12516

I don't have FN_2 in Deep Dive but they are the second and third in the match list, I think they are the first in the list of all Spanish users curiously

**Duarte** · 29-09-20, 23:39

Originally Posted by Duarte

Dodecad K7b - Some Iberian samples from Roman Iberia, Medieval Iberia, plus the Roman Soldier_FN2

Originally Posted by Duarte

Source:

Code:

RomanSoldier_FN_2,0,7.73,0.24,3.09,25,62.76,1.19
EarlyMedievalAndalusia_I3584,0,8.47,0.09,2.75,28.54,58.52,1.63
EarlyMedievalAndalusia_I3585,1.09,9.01,0.91,3.16,31.97,53.67,0.21
EarlyMedievalIberiaGranada_I3981,0,10.91,0,4.28,32.53,51.91,0.37
RomanVillaGranadaSpain_I3982,0,7.79,0.68,4.87,34.47,52.19,0
RomanVillaGranadaSpain_I3983,0,12.09,0,5.98,37.14,43.91,0.89
CarthagoMaghrebiAndalusia_I7457,0,10.19,0,7.01,33.69,49.11,0
CarolingianSettlementBarcelona_I7673,1.4,8.5,0,0.64,27.68,61.17,0.61
CarolingianSettlementBarcelona_I7675,0,7.27,0,1.12,27.36,63.47,0.78
GironaSantJuliadeRamis_I10852,1.99,9.12,0,1.69,26.20,61,0
GironaSantJuliadeRamis_I10853,1.36,11.07,0,1.68,29.33,56.56,0
GalloRomanCeltMixIberia_I10866,0.33,5,0.78,6.23,27.53,60.14,0
GironaSantJuliadeRamis_I10892,0.21,10.18,0.24,1.52,28.53,58.85,0.47
GironaSantJuliadeRamis_I10895,0,8.58,0.17,1.62,29.37,59.86,0.39
PortugueseCordobaCaliphate_I12514,0,8.58,1.57,3.15,29.37,56.66,0.67
SpaniardCordobaCaliphate_I12515,0,12.15,0,2.76,32.25,51.62,1.22
PortugueseCordobaCaliphate_I12516,0,10.12,0.32,2.9,29.76,56.68,0.22
MedievalTaifaofValencia_I12649,0,14.79,0.71,1.52,29.59,53.39,0

My results:

Distance to:	Duarte
4.87655616	PortugueseCordobaCaliphate_I12514
4.96405077	EarlyMedievalAndalusia_I3584
5.26381991	PortugueseCordobaCaliphate_I12516
5.82155478	GalloRomanCeltMixIberia_I10866
6.29609403	GironaSantJuliadeRamis_I10892
6.42997667	GironaSantJuliadeRamis_I10853
6.88409035	GironaSantJuliadeRamis_I10895
7.23286942	EarlyMedievalAndalusia_I3585
7.28958161	GironaSantJuliadeRamis_I10852
7.64748978	RomanSoldier_FN_2
8.01921443	CarolingianSettlementBarcelona_I7673
8.11814018	EarlyMedievalIberiaGranada_I3981
8.96576823	SpaniardCordobaCaliphate_I12515
9.02221702	MedievalTaifaofValencia_I12649
9.27494474	CarolingianSettlementBarcelona_I7675
9.31091832	RomanVillaGranadaSpain_I3982
10.31672429	CarthagoMaghrebiAndalusia_I7457
16.63418468	RomanVillaGranadaSpain_I3983

PS:
1) The label of sample I7457 nowadays in MTA is Carthago Al-Andalus Alhama de Granada and no more CarthagoMaghrebAndalusia.
2) The sample previously labeled by MTA as GalloRomanCeltMixIberia nowadays is labeled as Roman-Era Empuries.

Very nice friend @Carlos

Below I post my MTA’s Deep Dive, only the Iberians. Six of the matches below are highlighted in bold in the list above .

**bigsnake49** · 30-09-20, 01:22

Distance to:	Bigsnake49
12.23468022	MedievalTaifaofValencia_I12649
15.16873759	SpaniardCordobaCaliphate_I12515
16.66655933	EarlyMedievalIberiaGranada_I3981
16.86228336	GironaSantJuliadeRamis_I10853
17.87634750	PortugueseCordobaCaliphate_I12516
18.20091756	CarthagoMaghrebiAndalusia_I7457
18.34175564	EarlyMedievalAndalusia_I3585
18.60744475	GironaSantJuliadeRamis_I10892
18.72884140	RomanVillaGranadaSpain_I3983
19.12525033	PortugueseCordobaCaliphate_I12514
19.99873496	EarlyMedievalAndalusia_I3584
20.30165018	RomanVillaGranadaSpain_I3982
20.61192616	GironaSantJuliadeRamis_I10895
20.64013566	GironaSantJuliadeRamis_I10852
21.23875232	CarolingianSettlementBarcelona_I7673
22.87871718	RomanSoldier_FN_2
23.58531323	CarolingianSettlementBarcelona_I7675
24.16099129	GalloRomanCeltMixIberia_I10866

**Duarte** · 30-09-20, 02:15

Originally Posted by Duarte

My results with data source of posts #112 more #130

Distance to:	Duarte
4.87655616	PortugueseCordobaCaliphate_I12514
4.96405077	EarlyMedievalAndalusia_I3584
5.26381991	PortugueseCordobaCaliphate_I12516
5.82155478	GalloRomanCeltMixIberia_I10866
6.29609403	GironaSantJuliadeRamis_I10892
6.42997667	GironaSantJuliadeRamis_I10853
6.88409035	GironaSantJuliadeRamis_I10895
7.23286942	EarlyMedievalAndalusia_I3585
7.28958161	GironaSantJuliadeRamis_I10852
7.40809017	C7_Late_Antiquity_European:R110_Crypta_Balbi
7.64748978	RomanSoldier_FN_2
7.94598012	C7_Medieval_European:R61_Villa_Magna
8.01921443	CarolingianSettlementBarcelona_I7673
8.11814018	EarlyMedievalIberiaGranada_I3981
8.12233341	C7_Iron_Age_European:R1016_(Latini)_Castel_di_Deci ma
8.21397589	France_IA:NOR3-15
8.34727500	C7_Late_Antiquity_European:R109_Crypta_Balbi
8.36759822	C7_Late_Antiquity_European:R105_Crypta_Balbi
8.44770975	C7_Medieval_European:R1289_Cancelleria
8.61048779	C7_Iron_Age_European:R473_(Etruscan)_Civitavecchia
8.71397728	C7_Iron_Age_European:R1021_(Latini)_Boville_Ernica
8.76621355	C7_Medieval_European:R63_Villa_Magna
8.86159692	Balkans_BronzeAge:I4332__Croatia_EMBA
8.96490379	France_IA:ERS88
8.96576823	SpaniardCordobaCaliphate_I12515

PS:
1) The label of sample I7457 nowadays in MTA is Carthago Al-Andalus Alhama de Granada and no more CarthagoMaghrebAndalusia.
2) The sample previously labeled by MTA as GalloRomanCeltMixIberia nowadays is labeled as Roman-Era Empuries.

In sequence post #133, according with the samples highlighted in the list above, more samples with matches in MTA's Deep Dive:

**Carlos** · 30-09-20, 06:04

@Duarte
1) The label of sample I7457 nowadays in MTA is Carthago Al-Andalus Alhama de Granada and no more CarthagoMaghrebAndalusia.

I am not getting this sample from either Vahaduo or MT
Neither MS10514 Phoenician Ibiza

Classified as Phoenician I get this:

3.200BC

And and the Carthage label I only have this sample

It is a woman apparently mix with which I can not know with which of his part I agree

My outliers at the moment are these:

233. Medieval Taifa of Valencia
1200 AD - Genetic Distance: 18.8 - I12645
Roman Hispania + Illyrian (5.762)
Gallo-Roman + Roman Hispania (6.903)
Roman Hispania + Thracian (7.494)
Roman Hispania (7.985)
Gallo-Roman + Thracian (9.021)
Roman Hispania + Roman (9.133)
Illyrian (11.51)
Roman (14.45)
Gallo-Roman (15.43)
Thracian (15.9)

95 %

238. Post-Roman Era Barcelona
650 AD - Genetic Distance: 18.96 - I3776
Belgae (15.63)
Belgae + Gallo-Roman (15.72)
Belgae + Illyrian (16.37)
Visigoth + Belgae (16.9)
Belgae + Aquitani (17.03)
Gallo-Roman + Illyrian (19.44)

240. Hungary Late Avar Szekkutas-Kapolnadulo
680 AD - Genetic Distance: 18.98 - SzKper239
Latin + Carthaginian (9.847)
Latin + Phoenician (11.66)
Thracian + Carthaginian (12.16)
Etruscan + Carthaginian (12.74)
Thracian + Phoenician (12.94)
Carthaginian (15.79)
Etruscan (15.93)
Phoenician (16.39)
Latin (17.43)
Thracian (17.45)

9

263. Kornice Bronze Age Poland
2300 BC - Genetic Distance: 19.67 - I6534
Celtiberian (10.02)
Vascones + Celtiberian (10.47)
Celt + Celtiberian (10.59)
Celt + Iberian (12.12)
Aquitani + Celtiberian (12.26)
Vascones (12.53)
Iberian + Celtiberian (12.65)
Celt (14.54)
Iberian (16.48)
Aquitani (17.66)

264. Copper Age Alburg-Lerchenhaid Straubing Bavaria
2225 BC - Genetic Distance: 19.77 - I3593
Belgae + Illyrian (14.04)
Frank + Illyrian (14.26)
Illyrian (14.92)
Thuringii + Illyrian (15.94)
Gaul + Illyrian (16.08)
Frank (16.48)
Belgae + Frank (16.61)
Belgae (19.51)
Gaul (19.81)

266. Iberian Taifa of Valencia
1200 AD - Genetic Distance: 19.79 - I2647
Roman Hispania + Illyrian (4.63)
Roman Hispania + Thracian (6.367)
Al-Andalus + Roman Hispania (7.396)
Roman Hispania + Roman (7.647)
Roman Hispania (7.924)
Thracian + Illyrian (8.803)
Illyrian (10.49)
Roman (12.65)
Al-Andalus (14.25)
Thracian (14.83)

270. Thuringii Tribe
420 AD - Genetic Distance: 19.89 - AED_1108
Thuringii (Genetic match)

271. Central Roman
630 AD - Genetic Distance: 19.91 - CL36 ?
Roman (Genetic match)

273. Swiss Germanic
580 AD - Genetic Distance: 19.97 - CL102 ?
Scythian + Frank (3.971)
Gaul + Frank (4.406)
Visigoth + Gaul (4.755)
Scythian + Gaul (5.461)
Visigoth + Scythian (5.971)
Gaul (7.131)
Frank (7.131)
Visigoth (8.093)
Scythian (10.2)
Thuringii (11.42)

279. Medieval Denmark Odense
1315 AD - Genetic Distance: 20.22 - G104b
Viking Danish + Visigoth (3.845)
Viking Danish + Frank (4.611)
Visigoth + Celt (5.643)
Celt + Frank (5.813)
Saxon + Frank (6.028)
Frank (6.421)
Visigoth (6.892)
Saxon (7.965)
Viking Danish (8.917)
Celt (9.328)

280. Late-Roman Era Montefrio Granada
500 AD - Genetic Distance: 20.25 - I3582
Roman Hispania (Genetic match)

282. Immigrant Medieval Denmark
1305 AD - Genetic Distance: 20.28 - G274
Belgae + Celtiberian (9.861)
Belgae + Vascones (12.58)
Vascones + Celtiberian (13.2)
Celtiberian (13.52)
Aquitani + Celtiberian (13.79)
Belgae + Aquitani (13.88)
Vascones (14.27)
Belgae (15.26)
Aquitani (17.58)
Celt (17.81)

285. Hungarian Conqueror Karos II
900 AD - Genetic Distance: 20.47 - K2per36_GE
Roman Hispania + Boii (10.52)
Boii + Illyrian (12.88)
Al-Andalus + Boii (13.03)
Gallo-Roman + Boii (13.87)
Boii (14.56)
Roman Hispania + Illyrian (15.24)
Roman Hispania (15.85)
Al-Andalus (16.6)
Illyrian (17.44)
Gallo-Roman (17.97)

286. Medieval La Palma Sardinia
Roman Hispania + Thracian (8.125)
Gaul + Thracian (8.971)
Roman Hispania + Illyrian (9.324)
Gaul + Roman Hispania (9.543)
Gaul + Roman (9.748)
Illyrian (11.66)
Roman (11.81)
Roman Hispania (12.95)
Thracian (12.98)
Gaul (15.56)

287. Bronze Age Jinonice Prague Czech
2122 BC - Genetic Distance: 20.51 - I4886
Frank (3.633)
Visigoth + Frank (3.975)
Visigoth + Ostrogoth (4.302)
Ostrogoth + Frank (4.404)
Visigoth (4.913)
Gaul + Ostrogoth (4.999)
Gaul + Saxon (5.373)
Saxon (8.24)
Ostrogoth (9.678)
Gaul (9.756)

293. Medieval Tyrolian
Scythian + Gaul (4.345)
Scythian + Frank (4.345)
Visigoth + Gaul (5.766)
Scythian + Thuringii (5.805)
Visigoth + Scythian (6.348)
Gaul (7.559)
Frank (7.559)
Visigoth (8.622)
Scythian (8.717)
Thuringii (10.03)

294. Bronze Age Anselfingen Germany
Celt + Belgae (1.663)
Belgae + Vandal (3.338)
Celt (4.102)
Belgae + Saxon (4.381)
Celt + Frank (4.726)
Celt + Saxon (4.792)
Saxon (7.414)
Frank (8.048)
Belgae (8.381)
Vandal (10.44)

295. Visigoth Germanic Girona
Visigoth (Genetic match)

296. Sicily Buffa Early Bronze Age
Gaul + Ostrogoth (4.906)
Ostrogoth + Frank (4.906)
Visigoth + Ostrogoth (4.966)
Gaul + Alemanni (5.574)
Alemanni + Frank (6.74)
Frank (8.99)
Ostrogoth (9.102)
Visigoth (9.56)
Gaul (10.2)
Alemanni (13.4)

The only one related to Carthage or Fenician is this sample:240. Hungary Late Avar Szekkutas-Kapolnadulo
680 AD - Genetic Distance: 18.98 - SzKper239
Latin + Carthaginian (9.847)
Latin + Phoenician (11.66)
Thracian + Carthaginian (12.16)
Etruscan + Carthaginian (12.74)
Thracian + Phoenician (12.94)
Carthaginian (15.79)
Etruscan (15.93)
Phoenician (16.39)
Latin (17.43)
Thracian (17.45)

**Salento** · 01-10-20, 04:15

LivDNA / 23v5 Winner :)

**Salento** · 01-10-20, 04:41

S_Comb (23v4+5, Anc, LivDNA) Winner :)

Villa Magna or Medieval Cancelleria Basilica ?
... Cancelleria ...!

**matty74** · 01-10-20, 07:52

Originally Posted by Lukas

I added it to Vahaduo website http://vahaduo.genetics.ovh/dodecad-...nt-vahaduo.htm

Distance to:	Matt
1.30690474	C7_Late_Antiquity_European:R31_Mausole_di_Augusto
3.16798043	France_IA:ATT26
3.88979434	C7_Medieval_European:R1286_Cancelleria
3.91711629	France_BA:RIX4
4.15499699	Unetice_EBA:I0117_Esperstedt
4.15939900	Germany_Beaker_LN:I0806_Quedlinburg_VII
4.55409706	Germany_Beaker_LN:I0111_Rothenschirmbach
4.99630864	Germany_Beaker_LN:I0108_Rothenschirmbach
5.17361576	France_BA:RIX15
5.47267759	France_IA:COL11
5.62024910	Unetice_EBA:I0114_Esperstedt_(relative_of_I0117)
5.66044168	France_BA:PIR3116B
5.81204783	France_IA:NOR3-6
5.91601217	France_IA:PEY53
6.01875402	France_BA:OBE3626-1
6.07447117	C7_Medieval_European:R1288_Cancelleria
6.16757651	France_BA:BIS385
6.23790029	France_IA:BES1248
6.86928672	Germany_Beaker_LN:I0112_Quedlinburg_XII
7.12900414	France_IA:BFM265
7.42455386	France_BA:BIS130
7.75759628	BR2_Hungary_1180BC
7.82925284	Alberstedt_LN:I0118
8.00981273	Halberstadt_LBA:I0099
8.53758748	France_BA:OBE3722

**matty74** · 01-10-20, 07:57

From Post 130

Distance to: matt
16.95812784 RomanSoldier_FN_2
17.92841320 CarolingianSettlementBarcelona_I7675
18.76340587 GironaSantJuliadeRamis_I10852
19.58013279 CarolingianSettlementBarcelona_I7673
21.60699192 GalloRomanCeltMixIberia_I10866
21.71834938 GironaSantJuliadeRamis_I10895
21.82959917 GironaSantJuliadeRamis_I10892
22.29630911 EarlyMedievalAndalusia_I3584
24.13536410 GironaSantJuliadeRamis_I10853
24.23232552 PortugueseCordobaCaliphate_I12514
24.38813236 PortugueseCordobaCaliphate_I12516
27.20249253 MedievalTaifaofValencia_I12649
28.12322883 EarlyMedievalAndalusia_I3585
29.95806068 SpaniardCordobaCaliphate_I12515
29.98749073 EarlyMedievalIberiaGranada_I3981
31.13569656 RomanVillaGranadaSpain_I3982
33.32451350 CarthagoMaghrebiAndalusia_I7457
39.34112479 RomanVillaGranadaSpain_I3983

**matty74** · 01-10-20, 07:59

Distance to:	matt
16.95812784	RomanSoldier_FN_2
17.92841320	CarolingianSettlementBarcelona_I7675
18.76340587	GironaSantJuliadeRamis_I10852
19.58013279	CarolingianSettlementBarcelona_I7673
21.60699192	GalloRomanCeltMixIberia_I10866
21.71834938	GironaSantJuliadeRamis_I10895
21.82959917	GironaSantJuliadeRamis_I10892
22.29630911	EarlyMedievalAndalusia_I3584
24.13536410	GironaSantJuliadeRamis_I10853
24.23232552	PortugueseCordobaCaliphate_I12514
24.38813236	PortugueseCordobaCaliphate_I12516
27.20249253	MedievalTaifaofValencia_I12649
28.12322883	EarlyMedievalAndalusia_I3585
29.95806068	SpaniardCordobaCaliphate_I12515
29.98749073	EarlyMedievalIberiaGranada_I3981
31.13569656	RomanVillaGranadaSpain_I3982
33.32451350	CarthagoMaghrebiAndalusia_I7457
39.34112479	RomanVillaGranadaSpain_I3983

**matty74** · 01-10-20, 08:06

Distance to:	matt
4.15499699	Unetice_EBA:I0117_Esperstedt
4.15939900	Germany_Beaker_LN:I0806_Quedlinburg_VII
4.55409706	Germany_Beaker_LN:I0111_Rothenschirmbach
4.99630864	Germany_Beaker_LN:I0108_Rothenschirmbach
5.62024910	Unetice_EBA:I0114_Esperstedt_(relative_of_I0117)
6.86928672	Germany_Beaker_LN:I0112_Quedlinburg_XII
7.82925284	Alberstedt_LN:I0118
8.00981273	Halberstadt_LBA:I0099
9.00092217	Unetice_EBA:I0047_Halberstadt-Sonntagsfeld
9.00546501	Unetice_EBA:I0803_Eulau
9.86771503	BenzigerodeHeimburg_LN:I0058
9.97616660	Unetice_EBA:I0116_Esperstedt
10.09899005	Germany_Beaker_LN:I0113_Quedlinburg_XII
10.81960258	Unetice_EBA:I0115_Esperstedt
10.89309873	BenzigerodeHeimburg_LN:I0059
12.07644815	Unetice_EBA:I0164_Quedlinburg_VIII
17.18566554	Unetice_EBA:I0804_Eulau
18.64708020	BenzigerodeHeimburg_LN:I0171
19.05907658	Samara_HG:I0124_Lebyanzhinka_IV_Sok_River_Samara
19.76501202	Karsdorf_LN:I0550
20.53038480	Karelia_HG:I0061_Yuzhnyy_Oleni_Ostrov_Karelia
20.53479486	Corded_Ware_LN:I0049_Esperstedt
20.80142784	Corded_Ware_LN:I0103_Esperstedt
20.80609286	Corded_Ware_LN:I0104_Esperstedt
22.22971435	Germany_Beaker_LN:I0060_Rothenschirmbach

**matty74** · 01-10-20, 08:13

Originally Posted by Jovialis

I decided to rename this to Ancient West Eurasia, as I will be converting more into Dodecad K7b format.

Here are ancient Hungarian samples from C Gamba et al. 2014

Code:

BR1_Hungary_2080BC,0,0,0,0,9.8,90.2,0
BR2_Hungary_1180BC,0,9.68,0,0.37,19.88,70.08,0
CO1_Hungary_2810BC,0,0,0,0.11,41.83,58.06,0
IR1_Hungary_900BC,0,24.38,5.26,0,7.1,63.26,0
KO1_Hungary_5710BC,0.17,0,0,0.14,0,99.69,0
KO2_Hungary_5640BC,0,6.42,0,0,50.75,42.83,0
NE1_Hungary_5230BC,0,7,0,0.21,48.84,43.96,0
NE2_Hungary_5140BC,0,0,0,0,39.08,60.92,0
NE3_Hungary_5130BC,0,0,0,0,44.78,55.22,0
NE4_Hungary_5130BC,0,0.57,0,0,40.95,58.47,0
NE5_Hungary_5120BC,0,0.22,0,0.1,50.07,49.61,0
NE6_Hungary_5090BC,0,0,0,0,53.09,46.91,0
NE7_Hungary_4420BC,0,0,0,0.02,45.22,54.76,0

Distance to:	matt
7.75759628	BR2_Hungary_1180BC
18.53058553	BR1_Hungary_2080BC
20.52418573	IR1_Hungary_900BC
29.98686046	KO1_Hungary_5710BC
30.41189570	NE2_Hungary_5140BC
32.96370580	NE4_Hungary_5130BC
34.04994860	CO1_Hungary_2810BC
37.90590192	NE3_Hungary_5130BC
38.50444909	NE7_Hungary_4420BC
45.16875247	NE5_Hungary_5120BC
46.78561638	NE1_Hungary_5230BC
48.99674071	KO2_Hungary_5640BC
49.15391948	NE6_Hungary_5090BC

**Carlos** · 01-10-20, 12:48

Target: Carlos Distance: 1.6955% / 1.69546396
31.0	BR2_Hungary_1180BC

26.8	NE1_Hungary_5230BC

18.2	IR1_Hungary_900BC

9.6	KO1_Hungary_5710BC

8.6	NE5_Hungary_5120BC

5.8	CO1_Hungary_2810BC

Distance to:	Carlos
10.95953466	BR2_Hungary_1180BC
15.24668816	NE2_Hungary_5140BC
16.79959523	NE4_Hungary_5130BC
17.89246489	CO1_Hungary_2810BC
21.13990303	NE3_Hungary_5130BC
21.65791079	NE7_Hungary_4420BC
25.61394737	IR1_Hungary_900BC
27.67118176	NE5_Hungary_5120BC
28.42692034	NE1_Hungary_5230BC
30.66774690	KO2_Hungary_5640BC
31.50180788	NE6_Hungary_5090BC
34.34205439	BR1_Hungary_2080BC
47.31030226	KO1_Hungary_5710BC

**dominique_nuit** · 06-10-20, 01:06

My results on the test posted by Jovialis at start of thread

Originally Posted by Jovialis

http://vahaduo.genetics.ovh/dodecad-...nt-vahaduo.htm

As I am a mix of Calabrese, Irish and English, I am not sure if the results have any real meaning, but here are the numbers =

Distance to:	dominic
3.46444801	Foggia_MA:VK538
4.25836823	C7_Iron_Age_European:R1_(Protovillanovan)_Martinsi curo
4.57971615	C7_Medieval_European:R55_Villa_Magna
5.08599056	Balkans_BronzeAge:I3313_Croatia_LBA
5.48238999	Balkans_BronzeAge:I4332__Croatia_EMBA
6.06897026	C7_Iron_Age_European:R474_(Etruscan)_Civitavecchia
6.32213572	Vucedol:I3499_Croatia_Vucedol
6.46589514	C7_Late_Antiquity_European:R105_Crypta_Balbi
6.52338869	Balkans_BronzeAge:I2165_Bulgaria_EBA
6.57472433	Sardinia_EMA:I12221_Grotta_Colombi
6.60424106	C7_Late_Antiquity_European:R33_Mausole_di_Augusto
6.76121291	Balkans_BronzeAge:I4331_Croatia_EMBA
8.36878725	France_IA:ERS88
8.44437683	C7_Medieval_European:R1221_Cancelleria
8.57481778	France_IA:NOR3-15
9.47993143	C7_Late_Antiquity_European:R110_Crypta_Balbi
10.39391168	C7_Late_Antiquity_European:R108_Crypta_Balbi
10.66417836	C7_Medieval_European:R1220_Cancelleria
10.77774559	C7_Medieval_European:R1224_Cancelleria
11.08322155	C7_Iron_Age_European:R1016_(Latini)_Castel_di_Deci ma
11.17638135	C7_Late_Antiquity_European:R109_Crypta_Balbi
11.27694551	C7_Medieval_European:R61_Villa_Magna
11.47276340	C6_Late_Antiquity_Mediterranean:R36_Celio
11.84187907	Sicily_EBA:I11443_Buffa_Cave_II
12.31484876	Beaker_N_Italy_BA:I1979

**Jovialis** · 06-10-20, 17:57

I am not sure how accurate the modeling was with the averages test, but here are the Foggia samples using the modern Dodecad K7b populations. They reflect the whole Italian peninsula.

**Salento** · 06-10-20, 23:52

Originally Posted by Jovialis

I am not sure how accurate the modeling was with the averages test, but here are the Foggia samples using the modern Dodecad K7b populations. They reflect the whole Italian peninsula.

... dod 7 modern ... Target VK535 (added Salento_me on Source):

**Angela** · 06-10-20, 23:59

Originally Posted by Duarte

Dodecad K7b - Some Iberian samples from Roman Iberia, Medieval Iberia, plus the Roman Soldier_FN2

Source:

Code:

RomanSoldier_FN_2,0,7.73,0.24,3.09,25,62.76,1.19
EarlyMedievalAndalusia_I3584,0,8.47,0.09,2.75,28.54,58.52,1.63
EarlyMedievalAndalusia_I3585,1.09,9.01,0.91,3.16,31.97,53.67,0.21
EarlyMedievalIberiaGranada_I3981,0,10.91,0,4.28,32.53,51.91,0.37
RomanVillaGranadaSpain_I3982,0,7.79,0.68,4.87,34.47,52.19,0
RomanVillaGranadaSpain_I3983,0,12.09,0,5.98,37.14,43.91,0.89
CarthagoMaghrebiAndalusia_I7457,0,10.19,0,7.01,33.69,49.11,0
CarolingianSettlementBarcelona_I7673,1.4,8.5,0,0.64,27.68,61.17,0.61
CarolingianSettlementBarcelona_I7675,0,7.27,0,1.12,27.36,63.47,0.78
GironaSantJuliadeRamis_I10852,1.99,9.12,0,1.69,26.20,61,0
GironaSantJuliadeRamis_I10853,1.36,11.07,0,1.68,29.33,56.56,0
GalloRomanCeltMixIberia_I10866,0.33,5,0.78,6.23,27.53,60.14,0
GironaSantJuliadeRamis_I10892,0.21,10.18,0.24,1.52,28.53,58.85,0.47
GironaSantJuliadeRamis_I10895,0,8.58,0.17,1.62,29.37,59.86,0.39
PortugueseCordobaCaliphate_I12514,0,8.58,1.57,3.15,29.37,56.66,0.67
SpaniardCordobaCaliphate_I12515,0,12.15,0,2.76,32.25,51.62,1.22
PortugueseCordobaCaliphate_I12516,0,10.12,0.32,2.9,29.76,56.68,0.22
MedievalTaifaofValencia_I12649,0,14.79,0.71,1.52,29.59,53.39,0

My results:

Distance to:	Duarte
4.87655616	PortugueseCordobaCaliphate_I12514
4.96405077	EarlyMedievalAndalusia_I3584
5.26381991	PortugueseCordobaCaliphate_I12516
5.82155478	GalloRomanCeltMixIberia_I10866
6.29609403	GironaSantJuliadeRamis_I10892
6.42997667	GironaSantJuliadeRamis_I10853
6.88409035	GironaSantJuliadeRamis_I10895
7.23286942	EarlyMedievalAndalusia_I3585
7.28958161	GironaSantJuliadeRamis_I10852
7.64748978	RomanSoldier_FN_2
8.01921443	CarolingianSettlementBarcelona_I7673
8.11814018	EarlyMedievalIberiaGranada_I3981
8.96576823	SpaniardCordobaCaliphate_I12515
9.02221702	MedievalTaifaofValencia_I12649
9.27494474	CarolingianSettlementBarcelona_I7675
9.31091832	RomanVillaGranadaSpain_I3982
10.31672429	CarthagoMaghrebiAndalusia_I7457
16.63418468	RomanVillaGranadaSpain_I3983

PS:
1) The label of sample I7457 nowadays in MTA is Carthago Al-Andalus Alhama de Granada and no more CarthagoMaghrebAndalusia.
2) The sample previously labeled by MTA as GalloRomanCeltMixIberia nowadays is labeled as Roman-Era Empuries.

I'm close to different ones, Duarte. :)

Distance to:	Angela
4.44595322	MedievalTaifaofValencia_I12649
5.61757065	SpaniardCordobaCaliphate_I12515
7.43294693	EarlyMedievalIberiaGranada_I3981
8.85392004	GironaSantJuliadeRamis_I10853
9.03635435	EarlyMedievalAndalusia_I3585
9.67636812	PortugueseCordobaCaliphate_I12516
9.96634838	CarthagoMaghrebiAndalusia_I7457
10.69733144	RomanVillaGranadaSpain_I3982
11.06930440	PortugueseCordobaCaliphate_I12514
11.13789477	GironaSantJuliadeRamis_I10892
11.51834189	RomanVillaGranadaSpain_I3983
12.31657014	EarlyMedievalAndalusia_I3584
12.66334079	GironaSantJuliadeRamis_I10895
14.08977289	CarolingianSettlementBarcelona_I7673
14.29308574	GironaSantJuliadeRamis_I10852
16.60728455	CarolingianSettlementBarcelona_I7675
16.91907208	RomanSoldier_FN_2
16.95799516	GalloRomanCeltMixIberia_I10866

I don't know if it's all northern/north central Italians, or if it's a more Northwest Italian thing. Maybe other Italians will give it a try.

Target: Angela Distance: 3.7692% / 3.76923090
82.2	MedievalTaifaofValencia_I12649

17.8	RomanVillaGranadaSpain_I3983

**Duarte** · 07-10-20, 00:08

Originally Posted by Angela

I'm close to different ones, Duarte. :)

Distance to:	Angela
4.44595322	MedievalTaifaofValencia_I12649
5.61757065	SpaniardCordobaCaliphate_I12515
7.43294693	EarlyMedievalIberiaGranada_I3981
8.85392004	GironaSantJuliadeRamis_I10853
9.03635435	EarlyMedievalAndalusia_I3585
9.67636812	PortugueseCordobaCaliphate_I12516
9.96634838	CarthagoMaghrebiAndalusia_I7457
10.69733144	RomanVillaGranadaSpain_I3982
11.06930440	PortugueseCordobaCaliphate_I12514
11.13789477	GironaSantJuliadeRamis_I10892
11.51834189	RomanVillaGranadaSpain_I3983
12.31657014	EarlyMedievalAndalusia_I3584
12.66334079	GironaSantJuliadeRamis_I10895
14.08977289	CarolingianSettlementBarcelona_I7673
14.29308574	GironaSantJuliadeRamis_I10852
16.60728455	CarolingianSettlementBarcelona_I7675
16.91907208	RomanSoldier_FN_2
16.95799516	GalloRomanCeltMixIberia_I10866

I don't know if it's all northern/north central Italians, or if it's a more Northwest Italian thing. Maybe other Italians will give it a try.

Target: Angela Distance: 3.7692% / 3.76923090
82.2	MedievalTaifaofValencia_I12649

17.8	RomanVillaGranadaSpain_I3983

Nice Angela. I’m glad too see you back

**Duarte** · 07-10-20, 00:46

Originally Posted by Salento

... dod 7 modern ... Target VK535 (added Salento_me on Source):

Nice Salento. I play with the VKKs and some samples of modern K7b and the results are cool

Target: Duarte Distance: 4.9762% / 4.97620316 \| ADC: 0.5x
34.8	Portuguese

33.0	VK538

32.2	Canarias

Target: Duarte Distance: 4.5619% / 4.56192780 \| ADC: 0.25x
60.0	Canarias

33.2	VK538

6.8	Orkney

Target: Duarte Distance: 4.5260% / 4.52595767
61.6	Canarias

17.4	Orkney

10.8	VK538

10.2	VK534

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