During last times, more and more orthodox inhabitants of Macedonia are identifying themselves as ethnic Albanians. I am against that Macedonia might change her name. Macedonia is the right name, and I support it.
Jorge, George. Gjergj are the same. Durres is part of ghegland. The tosks of durres are recently migrants. Durres, elbasan, kavaja and probably librazhd are ghegland. I am talking about indigenous inhabitants, who are important about the history. Today you could see in elbasan many new settlers from the south.
I am talking about indigenous inhabitants, who are important about the history<meaning?Bro i think you need to understand that gheg was the original language of all albanian people.its just much older than of tosk soory you may not agree but is true.we he old latin,,have alot of ancient greek that is abcent in sourthern dilect.we also have the old latin.an as for macedonia yes south western is tosk but most of other places is of gegh an not just from later times but much early.I think you need to except it.This Standard Albanian is based about 80 percent on Tosk dialect forms, reflecting the structure of political power at that time in communist Albania. northern intellectuals having reopened in recent years the possibility of reviving a literary standard for the Gheg dialect. John Scylitzes refers (ca. 1081) to the Arbanites as forming part of the troops assembled in Durrës by Nicephorus Basilacius. It can be assumed that the Albanians began expanding from their mountain homeland in the eleventh and twelfth centuries, initially taking possession of the northern and central coastline and by the thirteenth century spreading southward toward what are now southern Albania and western Macedonia. In the middle of the fourteenth century, they migrated farther south into Greece, initially into Epirus, Thessaly (1320), Acarnania, and Aetolia. By the middle of the fifteenth century, which marks the end of this process of colonization, the Albanians had settled in over half of Greece in such great numbers that in many regions they constituted the majority of the population.both literaryGheg and literary Tosk was used. The communist regime imposed a Tosk-based unified standard with basis in the Korçë speech, in all of Albania. The same standard was adopted by theAlbanians in Yugoslavia, who had until then used theGheg standard. Gheg dialect is necessary for allAlbaniansand Albanologists, as it is clearly the root and the derivative of Albanian words, hence it is not possible that the Tosk dialect is the holder of the Albanian language as it carries all of the features of the Gheg, five nasal sounds, a, e, i, u, y, that the official language has eliminated.he official Language has wiped out a few gheg structures and features, which gheg people continue to use them today. Remember that those who say that gheg is confined to Kosovo, do not know that 70% of Albanian population speaks gheg today. 1) five nasal sounds, a, e, i, u, y, that the official language has eliminated 2) the second future tense. In english we say "I am going to go". In gheg we say "Un kam me shkue". The official language refuses to accept this structure, but 70% of albanians use it every day. And we know that 'I'm going to go' is different from 'I will go'. Well, so it is in Gheg. 3)the Infinitive. English language creates its subjunctive mood by using its infinitive, for example 'to be or not to be'. Gheg language uses its infinitive to form its subjunctive mood too, 'me qen a mos me qen'. But the official standard refuses to accept it. However, 70% albanians use it every day. 4) In addition to the subjunctive mood, the infinitive of Gheg is used also in conditional moods.Then you have this in 1462, une te pagezoj ne emer te atit.ti birit e te shpirtit te shenjte.
Do you really believe these bull**p sentences you write here?
These are Albanians:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alban...ile:Coat_of_arms_of_the_Despotate_of_Arta.jpg
Shqiptars are not Albanians. As, I've already asked you - do you have any evidence that they spoke the same language?
Do you really believe these bull**p sentences you write here?
So what do you have to say about the Austrians I've quoted last time?
Yeah, right
| Principality of Arbanon | 1190–1255 | ||
| 2 | Despotate of Angelokastron and Lepanto |  | 1358–1374 |
| 3 | Principality of Valona and Kanina | 1332–1417 | |
| 4 | Despotate of Arta | | 1358–1416 |
| 5 | Principality of Gjirokastër | 1386–1418 | |
| 6 | League of Lezha |  | 1444–1479 |
| 7 | Lordship of Berat | 1335–1417 | |
| 8 | Principality of Kastrioti |  | 1389–1444 |
| 9 | Principality of Dukagjini | 1387–1444 | |
| 10 | Princedom of Albania |
Well, let me explain you something, since you are a new "nation" and have to learn a lot of things.
It is accepted by all serious scholars, that Albanians are a paleo-balcanic people. Such is and the Albanian language. The only people that has survived from ancient times are Albanians and Vlachs. But concerning the origin of Aromanian there are still uncertainties. The only language that has survived from ancient times, (apart from Greek, which as we know was the language of the Church and the administration of the ERE), is the Albanian language.
I do not know that the Albanians have any connection with Atlantis.But i agree with all the list of name posted by you. Let me ad an another name, Macedonian. Yes, during during the Middle Ages, frequently in different sources, the Albanians are mentioned as Macedonian.
During the Middle Ages the Albanians are usually identified with the name Macedonian.
For example in the epic poem of Tzanes Koronaios, of 16th century, to honour a Albanian stradioto (mercenary of Venice) writes for example:
"And they were living in Macedonia,
(that is) Arta and Angellokastro, Giannena and Albania"... for him for example Macedonia,Epiros and Albania were the same.
"And gathered archonts, the Lacedaimonites(the Spartans)
and other good stradioti, Macedonians"...meaning the Albanian stradioti of Mercurio Bua...
"With a strong power made him a general,
the sir Mercurio commanding four hundred horsemen,
With special Macedonians, who all gave an oath
to be always faithfull to the king, and get killed for him"...
Also during the XVII was in Kingdom of Naples Italy, a famous Regiment, "Il reggimento Real Macedone del Regno di Napoli", "The Real Macedonian regiment of the Kingdom of Naples". This regiment was composed entirely with Albanian soldiers.
And it is normal for people to ask, how is it possible that some Slav want to call themselves Macedonians? One name, Tito.
“It is of no significance that there is no "Macedonian conscience". For example, during the October Revolution of 1917 there was no Belarus. We created it and no one today denies it” Joseph Stalin
Well, well, well. Even you learned to lie. First. Why do you answer my posting selectively? Second. Why you translate only a part of the article?
Problem to understand what this is about?
Well, let me explain you something, since you are a new "nation" and have to learn a lot of things.
It is accepted by all serious scholars, that Albanians are a paleo-balcanic people. Such is and the Albanian language. The only people that has survived from ancient times are Albanians and Vlachs. But concerning the origin of Aromanian there are still uncertainties. The only language that has survived from ancient times, (apart from Greek, which as we know was the language of the Church and the administration of the ERE), is the Albanian language.
I do not know that the Albanians have any connection with Atlantis.But i agree with all the list of name posted by you. Let me ad an another name, Macedonian. Yes, during during the Middle Ages, frequently in different sources, the Albanians are mentioned as Macedonian.
During the Middle Ages the Albanians are usually identified with the name Macedonian.
For example in the epic poem of Tzanes Koronaios, of 16th century, to honour a Albanian stradioto (mercenary of Venice) writes for example:
"And they were living in Macedonia,
(that is) Arta and Angellokastro, Giannena and Albania"... for him for example Macedonia,Epiros and Albania were the same.
"And gathered archonts, the Lacedaimonites(the Spartans)
and other good stradioti, Macedonians"...meaning the Albanian stradioti of Mercurio Bua...
"With a strong power made him a general,
the sir Mercurio commanding four hundred horsemen,
With special Macedonians, who all gave an oath
to be always faithfull to the king, and get killed for him"...
Also during the XVII was in Kingdom of Naples Italy, a famous Regiment, "Il reggimento Real Macedone del Regno di Napoli", "The Real Macedonian regiment of the Kingdom of Naples". This regiment was composed entirely with Albanian soldiers.
And it is normal for people to ask, how is it possible that some Slav want to call themselves Macedonians? One name, Tito.
“It is of no significance that there is no "Macedonian conscience". For example, during the October Revolution of 1917 there was no Belarus. We created it and no one today denies it” Joseph Stalin
You are asking. Albanian ethnic macedonian background.Where is the serbian ethnic background of macedonia?You for all people know that serbs are not even related to macedonians. serbs were not even in balkans when macedonia was called macedonia,Serb live in macedonia because of the yugoslavian empire you gained land through the empire as with the albanians land you gained through empire. As did the bulgarians..An dibra is part of albanian lands 100%.I dont see serbians defending macedonia in 1400s but albanians did in battle of mokra an dibra dibra was part of mati region in 1400s. where are the serbs then?wake up to yourself.macedonia is mixed ethnic back ground serbians,bulgarians,roma,albanians an greeks. 90% of people in dibra are albanians..,Infact just under half the population of macedonia are albanians.So please worry about who you are. You if are from macedonia are more likely bulgarian or serb.bulgarians are just simatic slavs an turkish people who mixed with eachother this is why bulgarians are called bulgarians,it comes from the turkish tribe bulgar
How can you say this.when infact all the written medievil was in my dilect?remeber my dilect is spoken by 1 group.i showed you righting from 14ctry,15ctry an 16 ctry an all in gheg albanian.I think that is enough prove my friend since my dilect is only spoken by albanians on mainland albania.You think 600yrs of living with italians,greko wont change arbreshe language?you think arbreshe an arbanties is still medievil?haha you out of your mind,infact i dont see arbreshe,arbantie been spoken in medievil times if this is the case then since gheg was the only language documented would mean arbreshe an arbanties spoke gheg,Srry my friend maybe you should ask my southern brothers this question because my dilect was documented AS I SHOWN YOU
I belive when castriota used term emathia it was bascily the same as what we say e madhe.malesia e madhe.anyhow of most of kosova was already under control of the ottomans.dibra was boarded with macedonia kosova an albania. In 1389 kosova was hit by the ottomans So im guessing since dibra was in north western macedonia may have fell to the ottomans until scanderbeg was born. this may explain why kastriota family had lands in sine.kruja,dibra etc I think this battle changed the course of history battle of moritsa.The routes the ottomans took was through parts of macedonia to try take kosovo.Macedonia and parts of Greece fell under Ottoman power after this battle. The battle was a part of the Ottoman campaign to conquer the Balkans and was preceded by the Ottoman capturing of Sozopol and succeeded by the capture of the cities ofDrama, Kavála and Serrai in modern Greece. The battle preceded the later 1389 Battle of Kosovo, and was one of many inhistory of the Serbian-Turkish wars.the dates after this battle fits perfect an the date also fits perfect to scanderbegs father expanding his lands an also the principality of kastriota.it was created from 1389-1417 as you can see scanderbeg wasnt even born his father may have fell refuge from the ottomans.since scanderbeg was born in 1405 an murad took him early age from where i can only say dibra as most of macedonia was under the ottomans.scanderbeg was incharge of sanjak area such as Debar the territory of this sanjak included part of territory of northern Albania, Krujë and areas between rivers Mat andBlack Drin.[2] In 1440 Skanderbeg was appointed a as sanjakbey of Sanjak of
hear is the OTTOMAN ROUTES they took to fight in battle of kosova an the dates it concludes parts of northern parts of macedonia.This thread has been viewed 454079 times.
