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Do Italians look more like Spaniards/Portuguese, or Greeks?

Do Italians look like Iberians or Greeks?

  • Northerners more Iberian, southerners more Greek

    Votes: 8 50.0%
  • Iberian

    Votes: 2 12.5%
  • Greek

    Votes: 6 37.5%

  • Total voters
    16
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http://www.genebase.com/learning/article/2


Distribution of subclades E in Europe, Africa and Middle East.

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As I had said yet, Spain has the same distribution than in Morocco (M81). France is an intermediate result, although is bigger M78, and italia, Central Europa and Balkans have the same distribution of subclades than in Middle East (M78).

Sorry boys, but Genetics don`t lie.
LOL same distribution. Morocco has 80% of E-M81, Spain only 4-5% , same as France. But I repeat, this has nothing to do with admixture, these are frequencies of haplogroups. You have no idea about genetics.
 
Yes, they are frequencies of haplogroups. Did I say the opposite? Lol.
Sorry for you, but our E haplogroup is linked with north Africa. In the rest of Europe is different, is with Middle East people.
You can accept or not, I don't care.
 
Yes, they are frequencies of haplogroups. Did I say the opposite? Lol.
Sorry for you, but our E haplogroup is linked with north Africa. In the rest of Europe is different, is with Middle East people.
You can accept or not, I don't care.

It has NOTHING to do with admixture. A blond, blue-eyed Scandinavian looking person could test into a Sub-Saharan subclade of Y-haplogroup L but it hardly means he / she is Black African.:laughing: Once more, haplogroup frequencies have nothing to do with admixture. Get yourself educated.
 
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LOL same distribution. Morocco has 80% of E-M81, Spain only 4-5% , same as France. But I repeat, this has nothing to do with admixture, these are frequencies of haplogroups. You have no idea about genetics.

Incorrect.
If this chart its true

http://www.julepe.org/GenographicProject/Y_MAP_arrow.gif

Then 10% more or less of Spaniards are E haplogroup, mainly subclade E-M81. The porcentage in France is much lower percentage. Besides, in France is more prevalent E-M78 as is in the rest of Europe.
 
carlitos the photo with burka?

to see what?

a beutifull muslim face?
or to compare? :grin:

It is my sense of humor, has come to plague American countries sweat, so you know, Spain is not Spain and the Spanish are not Spanish, are all Berbers.
 
Incorrect.
If this chart its true

http://www.julepe.org/GenographicProject/Y_MAP_arrow.gif

Then 10% more or less of Spaniards are E haplogroup, mainly subclade E-M81. The porcentage in France is much lower percentage. Besides, in France is more prevalent E-M78 as is in the rest of Europe.

Who the h**l cares what the M-81 levels are in Spain. They have no impact on phenotypes and autosomally Spaniards record roughly 2-3% NW African affinities. Spain is genetically overwhelmingly European (nearly 91% on admix analysis), scoring higher than many other countries.
 
It is my sense of humor, has come to plague American countries sweat, so you know, Spain is not Spain and the Spanish are not Spanish, are all Berbers.

It's the poorly educated and hateful Third-Worlders who are twisting information to falsely frame Spaniards and Portuguese as NW African. Nothing but a bunch of frustrated charlatans. Sad, sad world.
 
It's the poorly educated and hateful Third-Worlders who are twisting information to falsely frame Spaniards and Portuguese as NW African. Nothing but a bunch of frustrated charlatans. Sad, sad world.

They are like termites.
 
...and then you have some pretending to be native Spaniards. How sick is that?


Normally, some posing as native Spanish speakers and others for U.S. Americans Sometimes their attacks make a French anime and pour all their complex nineteenth century against Spain.

Generally any other European or contradicts the lies of the South American attack to Spain.

Many are sick and have an inferiority complex.
 
The main presenters of the most successful Spanish television Telecinco: Jordi Gonzalez and Jorge Javier Vazquez.

Jordi Gonzalez.jpg

Jorge javier Vazquez.jpg

By far, more Algerian/Turk/Libanese than german or dutch. Sorry for you boys.
 
It's the poorly educated and hateful Third-Worlders who are twisting information to falsely frame Spaniards and Portuguese as NW African. Nothing but a bunch of frustrated charlatans. Sad, sad world.


Are those genetic scientific who research this frustrated charlatans? Hahaha.
http://www.genebase.com/learning/article/2

No, they are not frustrated. You are angry, because you can not stand the idea that 10% of the Spaniards have North African haplogroup.

E se queres, digocho en galego, a ver se así aprendes un pouco mais de España e as súas linguas: o 10% dos españois temos un haplogrupo que nos vencella co norte de África. Saúdos dende Galicia. :). Vaime dicir a min un tipo que escrebe dende os Estados Unidos de onde son eu, jajajaja. Non tes nin idea.
 
hmmmm

perhaps that is the reason i will not go to spain

since all that Eb1...
hmm considering the myth of the African and their 'legs',
I will not have a change with a spanish lady
 
hmmmm

perhaps that is the reason i will not go to spain

since all that Eb1...
hmm considering the myth of the African and their 'legs',
I will not have a change with a spanish lady

I don't think 10% would be so much. It's only 1 of each 10. But deny the scientific evidence is so absurd and sterile!!! In my opinion, it reveals a Complex of inferiority.
 
Are those genetic scientific who research this frustrated charlatans? Hahaha.
http://www.genebase.com/learning/article/2

No, they are not frustrated. You are angry, because you can not stand the idea that 10% of the Spaniards have North African haplogroup.

E se queres, digocho en galego, a ver se así aprendes un pouco mais de España e as súas linguas: o 10% dos españois temos un haplogrupo que nos vencella co norte de África. Saúdos dende Galicia. :). Vaime dicir a min un tipo que escrebe dende os Estados Unidos de onde son eu, jajajaja. Non tes nin idea.




Or are you using the google translator with the Galician regional language or are a Galician who has done the test and the result has been: Berber, and you do not accept all of Spain is Berber, because there are no other guy I do not are Berbers, Berber you are but the rest of E are not Berber, so, you do not have to feel bad about it.
 
Or are you using the google translator with the Galician regional language or are a Galician who has done the test and the result has been: Berber, and you do not accept all of Spain is Berber, because there are no other guy I do not are Berbers, Berber you are but the rest of E are not Berber, so, you do not have to feel bad about it.

Non hai traductor tan perfecto para a lingua galega :rolleyes2:. Eu son bilingüe. Pero o q ti creas dame igual.

I have not done genetic testing, but if I were Haplogroup E I would have no problem to accept it. I think you do, as you have problems to accept the scientific evidence. So I do not understand why are you participating in a forum of genetics, if you not accept the results if they are contrary to your ideals.
 
Creo que tu forma de dar la información y actuar denotan mala intención porque presupones que la información que das no va a gustar especialmente a los españoles, además crees que con esa información demuestras que España es menos Europa, con comentarios como: Lo siento por ustedes muchachos, es una expresión que utilizan bastante los sudamericanos.

No sé, creo que necesitas pasar una noche con un bereber, puede que se te quiten todos los complejos de inferioridad que tienes.
 
I don't think 10% would be so much. It's only 1 of each 10. But deny the scientific evidence is so absurd and sterile!!! In my opinion, it reveals a Complex of inferiority.

maybe maybe not,
in my opinion it is the complex of acceptance,

although some claim the Madrid or the barcelona etc,
I believe the most beutiful palace is the Alambra,

I heard somewhere that the first city in medieval europe with lights all night is Toledo,
after the ancient culture who for few days in religious fair had light at night,

on the other hand, in my paradise are black and brown hair women, and has peach trees
in anothers paradise there are woman like Naomi campell. and has bannanas
and in 3rd person are women blond, pines but full of salmon fish

in my opinion it is not inferiority, but revolution, the choice of nature,

so in case of Iberia has a % of Eb which part of it could be ancient, and part of it arabic medieval,

how many years???????

I wonder why you don't arque about the Visigoths?
they enter same time, why you don't 'fight' about the blonde intruders in Iberia,

in fact the complex of non could be a complex of inferiority.

I wonder sice when Iberian R1b is considered that blond to compare it with Alpine race?
Since when Iberia is a Northern country and not at least half a mediterrenean (rest is Atlantic ocean)

How much Iberian R1b in Moors?
 
As for the question, as spanish men who has visited Italy a lot of times (7 times I think it's a big number) I can say that there is an Italian tupical who is neither Greek nor Spanish, but rather blend of Italian and Central Europe. Examples would be Valentino Rossi,

What is this, your idea of a silly joke? If this fellow was Spanish:


valentino-rossi.jpg

I am pretty sure you would be the first in line trying to label him "Berber/Moor" or what-have-you.
 
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