K12b Dodecad K12b - Maltese results

Be grateful that members here aren't treated as I've heard you treat the members on your site, particularly the Greek ones lately, I understand, who are banned solely for not agreeing with you.

I'm not going to address most of your post but the above, is not true. Not one Greek member has been banned for anything to do with their ideas. One person was banned for harassing users, but it was nothing to do with me and if I remember correctly, I did not perform the ban myself.

For the rest of your post, ok. I will keep to posting those on other sites where people are more interested in them.
 
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I'm not going to address most of your post but the above, is not true. Not one Greek member has been banned for anything to do with their ideas. One person was banned for harassing users, but it was nothing to do with me and if I remember correctly, I did not perform the ban myself.

For the rest of your post, ok. I will keep to posting those on other sites where people are more interested in them.

I have to agree with user "Angela"
You banned Casandrinos and many others who disagreed with your non appropriate ideas on what Greeks are. In fact most Italians and Greeks left the TA because of your constant Tr*lling and obsessive circle threads. You should apologize from all members who spent so much time there in order to defeat false claims which has been made in a dark room with no hope and feelings.
Now as we know the genetic of Peloponnese and we see that they differ no dramatically from Italians including Sicilians the 75000+ posts which has been made on this subject should fade away.
 
Many people of modern Messina descendent from people from all over Sicily and Calabria, the mayor Accorinti has a Calabrese surname. And some north eastern Italians also settled there after Caporetto.
 
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I know it's not much of a difference, maybe too small to worry about, but does anyone have a theory as to why the Sicilian Caucasus component is higher?

This is just a one (person) on one comparison. In fact other result posted by seanp says 40.78% Caucasus while mine is only 26.66. One needs to take results from a large group to cover whole populations to get an average, since results defer from one person to the other. Also percentages would vary from different regions within Sicily itself.
 
I have to agree with user "Angela"
You banned Casandrinos and many others who disagreed with your non appropriate ideas on what Greeks are. In fact most Italians and Greeks left the TA because of your constant Tr*lling and obsessive circle threads. You should apologize from all members who spent so much time there in order to defeat false claims which has been made in a dark room with no hope and feelings.
Now as we know the genetic of Peloponnese and we see that they differ no dramatically from Italians including Sicilians the 75000+ posts which has been made on this subject should fade away.

As for the genetics, yes, you're right about Peloponnesians and I was wrong in the past but I WILL defend myself from false claims being made about my mod behavior on TA:

Casandrinos was not banned for that reason, he was banned for spam posting, harassing users with homophobic comments and other personal attacks, and the decision was supported by the other Greek moderator, and by the forum administrator. It was not as if I made the decision for personal reasons, it was an accumulation of issues and there was not one mod/admin who disagreed. And no, most Greek users did not leave, they still post there.
 
This is just a one (person) on one comparison. In fact other result posted by seanp says 40.78% Caucasus while mine is only 26.66. One needs to take results from a large group to cover whole populations to get an average, since results defer from one person to the other. Also percentages would vary from different regions within Sicily itself.

Are you fully Maltese?
 
Are you fully Maltese?

That is something very hard to define (The fully thing). When one take in consideration all the events that happened after the repopulation of the Maltese Islands in the year thousand something from Sicily to the continuous admixture of people that made the Maltese Islands their home for one reason or another through different powers and major events. The only stable common factor seemed to be that who ever was going to be 'Maltese' had to be Christian (more precisely Catholic). My great grand father was English and converted to Catholism. There were many similar situations. Even slaves that were given freedom (during the era of the knights of St. John) had to convert to Christianity. So genetically how can one define a fully Maltese? ;)
 
As for the genetics, yes, you're right about Peloponnesians and I was wrong in the past but I WILL defend myself from false claims being made about my mod behavior on TA:

Casandrinos was not banned for that reason, he was banned for spam posting, harassing users with homophobic comments and other personal attacks, and the decision was supported by the other Greek moderator, and by the forum administrator. It was not as if I made the decision for personal reasons, it was an accumulation of issues and there was not one mod/admin who disagreed. And no, most Greek users did not leave, they still post there.

you've been spamming the same threads for years, yet no one banned you, wonder why? I can prove and many ex TA members that you've been over abusing your "privileges" and it's also true you've been made sock accounts and you banned Casandrinos because he stated the obvious "Lyllo and many others with the same aspie behavior are the same socks made by you"
For some reason you have a negative feeling towards people of Italian descent and i don't know if it's true but someone said that you dislike your West Asian features and blame Italians for the way you look like. So this hate and anger manifested into an online persona.
 
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That is something very hard to define (The fully thing). When one take in consideration all the events that happened after the repopulation of the Maltese Islands in the year thousand something from Sicily to the continuous admixture of people that made the Maltese Islands their home for one reason or another through different powers and major events. The only stable common factor seemed to be that who ever was going to be 'Maltese' had to be Christian (more precisely Catholic). My great grand father was English and converted to Catholism. There were many similar situations. Even slaves that were given freedom (during the era of the knights of St. John) had to convert to Christianity. So genetically how can one define a fully Maltese? ;)

That's a really good answer. An ethnicity is something very hard to define, especially when it comes to places full of history like in southern Europe. It's easier for some northern European ethnicity, because they are all smaller and for a long time more isolated than the rest of the Europeans.
 
I think it a so so answer. So, Malta has experienced multi-culturalism and immigration like other places in Europe. Maltese people are people whose ancestry is from Malta for hundreds of years. Maleth is admixed because of his English foreign ancestor, so he gives a general answer. Maltese people are interrelated distantly. The relationship calculations of 23andMe, Ancestry and FTDNA all exaggerate the relationship of Maltese people. A 3rd -5th cousin is really a 9th, 9th once removed and 10th cousins. Genealogy for Maltese people is hopeless with everyone having the same surnames generation after generation. You need a family tree that goes to the 16th century in order to find a connection.

I just want to state some things about Maltese people. Maltese people came to Malta in the 11th century from Agrigento, Sicily during the last days of Muslim control in Sicily. These Sicilians were basically Muslim and Mozarabs, though some full-on Berbers were present as Muslim clerics and soldiers. Slavery existed in Malta until the coming of the French in the 18th century, most of these slaves were from Northwest Africa though there were Ethiopian slaves also. A famous Ethiopian slave was Antonia Sancti who gave the surname to the Sant family. The Maltese family Said derives from the descendants of Sultan Cem who failed in his attempt to takeover Ottoman Turkey. Surnames in Malta do not indicate the ethnicity of the holder, for example, Zammit belongs to R1b, Sultana belongs to I-M223 and Bugeja belongs to R-PF6570. Most surnames seem to have low NPE based on their haplogroups.

I do not understand why Dodecad is still used as it is so old and outdated. Dienekes had a lot of agendas when he invented DIYDodecadWin calculator and his Dodecad GEDmatch calculators. If you want to see how Maltese people play out you need a lot of samples, they may be all interrelated but there is a lot of variation the ancestry breakdown. Some may have North African in double figures and others none at all. It is the luck of the draw. According to Ancestry I am quintessentially Sicilian which pissed me off as I am as Maltese as they come genetically. My ancestors have had nothing to do with Sicily for hundreds of years, there are no Sicilians in my family tree. Maltese people share most with Italians, Greeks and other Balkanians. Jews, despite what Oracles say, do not have much IBD with Maltese people. So all those Jews listed on Oracle are rubbish. Some of you have complained about MyOrigins mark 2, well, I have zero Ashkenazi and Sephardi Jewish ancestry.
 
Ponto, as you have said. Maltese derivered from old muslim population of Sicily that's why they are autosomally Sicilian with a major North African admixture (see Lazaridis paper for example). I also think that most of muslim population of Sicily were native converted with a small number of Berber and islamic Andalusians (not modern people of Andalusia of course) but they were expelled. Therefore Sicily was largely settled by mainland Italians, especially from south but not only. Your family has not to do with Sicily in recent time?ok but your ancestors came surely mostly from old Sicilian population in medieval times.
 
Some other Maltese results from my dataset

#
PopulationPercent
1Caucasus34.27
2Atlantic_Med26.86
3Southwest_Asian12.1
4North_European11.16
5Northwest_African6.49
6Gedrosia5.95
7Sub_Saharan1.67
8Southeast_Asian0.76
9East_African0.48
10East_Asian0.21
11Siberian0.04
12South_Asian0.01

Single Population Sharing:

#Population (source)Distance
1Sicilian (Dodecad)4.89
2S_Italian_Sicilian (Dodecad)5.6
3Ashkenazi (Dodecad)6.36
4Ashkenazy_Jews (Behar)6.64
5Sephardic_Jews (Behar)7.29
6Morocco_Jews (Behar)8.48
7C_Italian (Dodecad)10.96
8Greek (Dodecad)11.03
9O_Italian (Dodecad)14.26
10Tuscan (HGDP)15.1
11TSI30 (Metspalu)16.08
12Cypriots (Behar)17.33
13Turkish (Dodecad)19.76
14Lebanese (Behar)20.66
15N_Italian (Dodecad)21.98
16Turks (Behar)22.1
17North_Italian (HGDP)22.98
18Syrians (Behar)23.6
19Bulgarian (Dodecad)23.73
20Bulgarians (Yunusbayev)24.08

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source)Secondary Population (source)Distance
1 90.6% S_Italian_Sicilian (Dodecad) + 9.4% Moroccans (Behar) @ 2.86
2 95.2% S_Italian_Sicilian (Dodecad) + 4.8% Mozabite (HGDP) @ 2.89
3 88.3% S_Italian_Sicilian (Dodecad) + 11.7% Algerian (Dodecad) @ 2.91
4 90.7% Sicilian (Dodecad) + 9.3% Algerian (Dodecad) @ 3.17
5 92.7% Sicilian (Dodecad) + 7.3% Moroccans (Behar) @ 3.21
6 57.4% Morocco_Jews (Behar) + 42.6% Greek (Dodecad) @ 3.22
7 75.3% Morocco_Jews (Behar) + 24.7% Bulgarians (Yunusbayev) @ 3.23
8 90.7% S_Italian_Sicilian (Dodecad) + 9.3% Moroccan (Dodecad) @ 3.23
9 75% Morocco_Jews (Behar) + 25% Bulgarian (Dodecad) @ 3.26
10 86.6% Sephardic_Jews (Behar) + 13.4% German (Dodecad) @ 3.27



#
PopulationPercent
1Caucasus29.77
2Atlantic_Med29.45
3North_European13.34
4Southwest_Asian12.45
5Gedrosia7.16
6Northwest_African5.05
7Sub_Saharan1.3
8East_African1.16
9Siberian0.33

Single Population Sharing:

#Population (source)Distance
1Sicilian (Dodecad)6.86
2S_Italian_Sicilian (Dodecad)6.97
3C_Italian (Dodecad)8.33
4Ashkenazi (Dodecad)9.81
5Ashkenazy_Jews (Behar)10.27
6O_Italian (Dodecad)10.54
7Sephardic_Jews (Behar)11.14
8Greek (Dodecad)11.2
9Morocco_Jews (Behar)11.21
10Tuscan (HGDP)11.91
11TSI30 (Metspalu)12.41
12N_Italian (Dodecad)17.61
13North_Italian (HGDP)18.74
14Cypriots (Behar)21.76
15Bulgarian (Dodecad)21.98
16Bulgarians (Yunusbayev)22.39
17Romanians (Behar)23.12
18Turkish (Dodecad)23.25
19Lebanese (Behar)24.01
20Turks (Behar)25.46

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source)Secondary Population (source)Distance
1 79.6% Sephardic_Jews (Behar) + 20.4% Argyll (1000Genomes) @ 2
2 79.8% Sephardic_Jews (Behar) + 20.2% Irish (Dodecad) @ 2.01
3 79.9% Sephardic_Jews (Behar) + 20.1% Orcadian (HGDP) @ 2.02
4 79.2% Sephardic_Jews (Behar) + 20.8% British (Dodecad) @ 2.05
5 79% Sephardic_Jews (Behar) + 21% Cornwall (1000Genomes) @ 2.05
6 80% Sephardic_Jews (Behar) + 20% Orkney (1000Genomes) @ 2.07
7 78.6% Sephardic_Jews (Behar) + 21.4% Kent (1000Genomes) @ 2.16
8 78.9% Sephardic_Jews (Behar) + 21.1% English (Dodecad) @ 2.17
9 78.9% Sephardic_Jews (Behar) + 21.1% CEU30 (1000Genomes) @ 2.18
10 51.6% O_Italian (Dodecad) + 48.4% Morocco_Jews (Behar) @ 2.24



#
PopulationPercent
1Caucasus40.78
2Atlantic_Med27.22
3Southwest_Asian11.39
4North_European7.82
5Northwest_African5.78
6Gedrosia4
7East_African2.41
8Southeast_Asian0.5
9Siberian0.09
10Sub_Saharan0.02

Single Population Sharing:

#Population (source)Distance
1Sephardic_Jews (Behar)5.98
2Sicilian (Dodecad)6.46
3Ashkenazy_Jews (Behar)6.55
4Ashkenazi (Dodecad)6.77
5S_Italian_Sicilian (Dodecad)7.07
6Morocco_Jews (Behar)9.56
7Cypriots (Behar)12.77
8Greek (Dodecad)13.05
9C_Italian (Dodecad)14.36
10Turkish (Dodecad)18.17
11Tuscan (HGDP)18.26
12O_Italian (Dodecad)18.93
13TSI30 (Metspalu)19.67
14Lebanese (Behar)19.85
15Turks (Behar)20.88
16Druze (HGDP)21.03
17Syrians (Behar)23.47
18Jordanians (Behar)23.78
19Armenian (Dodecad)25.02
20Palestinian (HGDP)25.11

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source)Secondary Population (source)Distance
1 73.7% Cypriots (Behar) + 26.3% Canarias (1000Genomes) @ 3.82
2 71% Sicilian (Dodecad) + 29% Cypriots (Behar) @ 4.17
3 81.7% Sicilian (Dodecad) + 18.3% Druze (HGDP) @ 4.52
4 85.2% Sicilian (Dodecad) + 14.8% Armenians (Behar) @ 4.55
5 84.6% Sicilian (Dodecad) + 15.4% Armenian (Dodecad) @ 4.66
6 55.4% Sephardic_Jews (Behar) + 44.6% Ashkenazy_Jews (Behar) @ 4.74
7 85.6% Sicilian (Dodecad) + 14.4% Armenians_15 (Yunusbayev) @ 4.78
8 54.7% Sephardic_Jews (Behar) + 45.3% Sicilian (Dodecad) @ 4.79
9 90.7% Sicilian (Dodecad) + 9.3% Georgians (Behar) @ 4.8
10 85.8% Sicilian (Dodecad) + 14.2% Azerbaijan_Jews (Behar) @
 
I think it a so so answer. So, Malta has experienced multi-culturalism and immigration like other places in Europe. Maltese people are people whose ancestry is from Malta for hundreds of years. Maleth is admixed because of his English foreign ancestor, so he gives a general answer. Maltese people are interrelated distantly. The relationship calculations of 23andMe, Ancestry and FTDNA all exaggerate the relationship of Maltese people. A 3rd -5th cousin is really a 9th, 9th once removed and 10th cousins. Genealogy for Maltese people is hopeless with everyone having the same surnames generation after generation. You need a family tree that goes to the 16th century in order to find a connection.

well well 16th century would be considered very recent on any standard. The top 20 surnames in Malta constitute some 25% of present population and guess what? more then half have a paper trail with 'Foreign' origins as mainly from Sicily (some Spanish and Italian). How pure Maltese is that? More and more surnames entered later with a direct Sicilian / Southern Italian link, Some 3% have British origins and a percentage of French too ( ex. De Puget, Du pui, Pule, Bernard, Fornier). How pure Maltese is that? Please define a pure Maltese dna wise and not considered an admixture?:rolleyes: Do not forget the whole male population of Celano (In Italy) in 1223 was exiled to Malta (in the South) and 400 Rhodian refugies arrived with the knights of St John after being ousted from Rhodes by the Ottomans. (Don't forget we are talking in a time when the local population was very very small. So what do you mean exactly by saying Maltese people are people whose ancestry is from Malta for hundreds of years?!
 
The same southern italians and sicilians have also spanish or french link (or northern italian or albanian and greek link). So there are no pure peoples all over the world.
 
Some other Maltese results from my dataset

#
PopulationPercent
1Caucasus34.27
2Atlantic_Med26.86
3Southwest_Asian12.1
4North_European11.16
5Northwest_African6.49
6Gedrosia5.95
7Sub_Saharan1.67
8Southeast_Asian0.76
9East_African0.48
10East_Asian0.21
11Siberian0.04
12South_Asian0.01

Single Population Sharing:

#Population (source)Distance
1Sicilian (Dodecad)4.89
2S_Italian_Sicilian (Dodecad)5.6
3Ashkenazi (Dodecad)6.36
4Ashkenazy_Jews (Behar)6.64
5Sephardic_Jews (Behar)7.29
6Morocco_Jews (Behar)8.48
7C_Italian (Dodecad)10.96
8Greek (Dodecad)11.03
9O_Italian (Dodecad)14.26
10Tuscan (HGDP)15.1
11TSI30 (Metspalu)16.08
12Cypriots (Behar)17.33
13Turkish (Dodecad)19.76
14Lebanese (Behar)20.66
15N_Italian (Dodecad)21.98
16Turks (Behar)22.1
17North_Italian (HGDP)22.98
18Syrians (Behar)23.6
19Bulgarian (Dodecad)23.73
20Bulgarians (Yunusbayev)24.08

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

#Primary Population (source)Secondary Population (source)Distance
190.6% S_Italian_Sicilian (Dodecad) + 9.4% Moroccans (Behar) @ 2.86
295.2% S_Italian_Sicilian (Dodecad) + 4.8% Mozabite (HGDP) @ 2.89
388.3% S_Italian_Sicilian (Dodecad) + 11.7% Algerian (Dodecad) @ 2.91
490.7% Sicilian (Dodecad) + 9.3% Algerian (Dodecad) @ 3.17
592.7% Sicilian (Dodecad) + 7.3% Moroccans (Behar) @ 3.21
657.4% Morocco_Jews (Behar) + 42.6% Greek (Dodecad) @ 3.22
775.3% Morocco_Jews (Behar) + 24.7% Bulgarians (Yunusbayev) @ 3.23
890.7% S_Italian_Sicilian (Dodecad) + 9.3% Moroccan (Dodecad) @ 3.23
975% Morocco_Jews (Behar) + 25% Bulgarian (Dodecad) @ 3.26
1086.6% Sephardic_Jews (Behar) + 13.4% German (Dodecad) @ 3.27



#
PopulationPercent
1Caucasus29.77
2Atlantic_Med29.45
3North_European13.34
4Southwest_Asian12.45
5Gedrosia7.16
6Northwest_African5.05
7Sub_Saharan1.3
8East_African1.16
9Siberian0.33

Single Population Sharing:

#Population (source)Distance
1Sicilian (Dodecad)6.86
2S_Italian_Sicilian (Dodecad)6.97
3C_Italian (Dodecad)8.33
4Ashkenazi (Dodecad)9.81
5Ashkenazy_Jews (Behar)10.27
6O_Italian (Dodecad)10.54
7Sephardic_Jews (Behar)11.14
8Greek (Dodecad)11.2
9Morocco_Jews (Behar)11.21
10Tuscan (HGDP)11.91
11TSI30 (Metspalu)12.41
12N_Italian (Dodecad)17.61
13North_Italian (HGDP)18.74
14Cypriots (Behar)21.76
15Bulgarian (Dodecad)21.98
16Bulgarians (Yunusbayev)22.39
17Romanians (Behar)23.12
18Turkish (Dodecad)23.25
19Lebanese (Behar)24.01
20Turks (Behar)25.46

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

#Primary Population (source)Secondary Population (source)Distance
179.6% Sephardic_Jews (Behar) + 20.4% Argyll (1000Genomes) @ 2
279.8% Sephardic_Jews (Behar) + 20.2% Irish (Dodecad) @ 2.01
379.9% Sephardic_Jews (Behar) + 20.1% Orcadian (HGDP) @ 2.02
479.2% Sephardic_Jews (Behar) + 20.8% British (Dodecad) @ 2.05
579% Sephardic_Jews (Behar) + 21% Cornwall (1000Genomes) @ 2.05
680% Sephardic_Jews (Behar) + 20% Orkney (1000Genomes) @ 2.07
778.6% Sephardic_Jews (Behar) + 21.4% Kent (1000Genomes) @ 2.16
878.9% Sephardic_Jews (Behar) + 21.1% English (Dodecad) @ 2.17
978.9% Sephardic_Jews (Behar) + 21.1% CEU30 (1000Genomes) @ 2.18
1051.6% O_Italian (Dodecad) + 48.4% Morocco_Jews (Behar) @ 2.24



#
PopulationPercent
1Caucasus40.78
2Atlantic_Med27.22
3Southwest_Asian11.39
4North_European7.82
5Northwest_African5.78
6Gedrosia4
7East_African2.41
8Southeast_Asian0.5
9Siberian0.09
10Sub_Saharan0.02

Single Population Sharing:

#Population (source)Distance
1Sephardic_Jews (Behar)5.98
2Sicilian (Dodecad)6.46
3Ashkenazy_Jews (Behar)6.55
4Ashkenazi (Dodecad)6.77
5S_Italian_Sicilian (Dodecad)7.07
6Morocco_Jews (Behar)9.56
7Cypriots (Behar)12.77
8Greek (Dodecad)13.05
9C_Italian (Dodecad)14.36
10Turkish (Dodecad)18.17
11Tuscan (HGDP)18.26
12O_Italian (Dodecad)18.93
13TSI30 (Metspalu)19.67
14Lebanese (Behar)19.85
15Turks (Behar)20.88
16Druze (HGDP)21.03
17Syrians (Behar)23.47
18Jordanians (Behar)23.78
19Armenian (Dodecad)25.02
20Palestinian (HGDP)25.11

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

#Primary Population (source)Secondary Population (source)Distance
173.7% Cypriots (Behar) + 26.3% Canarias (1000Genomes) @ 3.82
271% Sicilian (Dodecad) + 29% Cypriots (Behar) @ 4.17
381.7% Sicilian (Dodecad) + 18.3% Druze (HGDP) @ 4.52
485.2% Sicilian (Dodecad) + 14.8% Armenians (Behar) @ 4.55
584.6% Sicilian (Dodecad) + 15.4% Armenian (Dodecad) @ 4.66
655.4% Sephardic_Jews (Behar) + 44.6% Ashkenazy_Jews (Behar) @ 4.74
785.6% Sicilian (Dodecad) + 14.4% Armenians_15 (Yunusbayev) @ 4.78
854.7% Sephardic_Jews (Behar) + 45.3% Sicilian (Dodecad) @ 4.79
990.7% Sicilian (Dodecad) + 9.3% Georgians (Behar) @ 4.8
1085.8% Sicilian (Dodecad) + 14.2% Azerbaijan_Jews (Behar) @

Typical trend of Maltese's results. They are Sicilian/Southern Italian with some more North African or Near Eastern link. I guess because according to Ponto the original core of population if the island was resettled by muslims from western Sicily (eastern Sicily was not islamized) who were mostly native Sicilians (Greek-Roman with local Italic peoples) with some intermarriages with Berbers, while the deportation of Sicilian muslims and the subsequently repopulation of large part of Sicily with mainland Italians have reduced North African admix in Sicily (which is indeed insignificant). We should consider that the people of Celano also settled in Calabria and Sicily over than Malta. I always thought that this extra North African had to do with the pre-Roman past (Sicily and South Italy mostly Greek, Malta mostly Punic) but if the islands were depopulated by muslims is a nonsense.
 
Typical trend of Maltese's results. They are Sicilian/Southern Italian with some more North African or Near Eastern link. I guess because according to Ponto the original core of population if the island was resettled by muslims from western Sicily (eastern Sicily was not islamized) who were mostly native Sicilians (Greek-Roman with local Italic peoples) with some intermarriages with Berbers, while the deportation of Sicilian muslims and the subsequently repopulation of large part of Sicily with mainland Italians have reduced North African admix in Sicily (which is indeed insignificant). We should consider that the people of Celano also settled in Calabria and Sicily over than Malta. I always thought that this extra North African had to do with the pre-Roman past (Sicily and South Italy mostly Greek, Malta mostly Punic) but if the islands were depopulated by muslims is a nonsense.

*) Although ancient historians are not always reliable the accounts by Al-Himyarī's not only recount that the then Byzantine (at least culturally) population was eradicated, but Fishermen from Sicily used to visit the uninhabited Island and also to harvest wood. So part of todays Maltese population has to be attributed to the resettlement that took place later. (Since other major events happened later)

*) Do we have any regional dna sampling from different regions in Sicily. It is very probable in my opinion that Malta would compare well say the South West regions to include as you put it the more North Africa Middle eastern link. Most Sicilian studies are grouped as an Island as a whole. Sicily is a huge Island and I am pretty sure there are variations for the three corners (so to speak)

*) It very much seems that the events of Expulsions, Christianization and Latinization that happened after 1224 (with the expulsions of Muslims to Lucera) and Celano events were very much in line in the Maltese Islands as a policy dictated by Palermo to which they were part of.
 
Most studies about Sicily (or Italy) divided the island between west and east. Sazzini uses samples from Agrigento for west and Catania for the east but they plot almost identical with Agrigento a bit more continental in some individuals, while the study of Fiorito uses Ragusa and Trapani, Eurogenes have Siracusa for east and Trapani for west. Trapani seems to be more "continental". Maybe zones like Mazara could approach Malta but Agrigento looks like regular Sicilian sample. But we talk about 2/3% more of MENA for Malta, nothing of exaggerate.
The muslim expulsion is a long and complex history, after king Ruggero II death, there were three anti-muslim pogroms, and Federico II eradicated muslim presence in Sicily in a civil war between 1219 and 1246. I dunno for Malta if it was the same, I haven't historic books about it, but I know many celanesi settled also in Sicily and Calabria over than Malta, but many of them returned to Abruzzo.

http://www.museodellamarsica.benicu...it/145/storia-di-celano-dalle-origini-al-1227

"I celanesi furono esiliati in Sicilia, Calabria e Malta e l? resteranno fino al 1227."
 
On MDLP K23, most Maltese I have seen score "Sicily_Agrigento" or "Sicily_West" in their top 5, which makes sense as the vast majority of their ancestry, and their surnames come from there. The most common surnames in Malta (Farruggia, Camilleri, Vella, Spiteri, Attard) are typically found in Agrigento and Caltanissetta or have variants there, and sometimes even Palermo, so it is these regions that Maltese people will be closest to.

On GEDmatch's "One to Many," nearly every person from Agrigento or Caltanissetta I have put in there has close relatives (this high IBD sharing) in Malta. Even the people from inland Caltanissetta, so Maltese might have ancestry from deep inland and not just the coasts. I know a Maltese guy who has one of the surnames mentioned above and he can trace back to Agrigento in the 1700s. Remember also that Sicilians came to Malta with these surnames, so if you can figure out when the surnames originated, it had to be after that, that they traveled to Malta.
 
On MDLP K23, most Maltese I have seen score "Sicily_Agrigento" or "Sicily_West" in their top 5, which makes sense as the vast majority of their ancestry, and their surnames come from there. The most common surnames in Malta (Farruggia, Camilleri, Vella, Spiteri, Attard) are typically found in Agrigento and Caltanissetta or have variants there, and sometimes even Palermo, so it is these regions that Maltese people will be closest to.

On GEDmatch's "One to Many," nearly every person from Agrigento or Caltanissetta I have put in there has close relatives (this high IBD sharing) in Malta. Even the people from inland Caltanissetta, so Maltese might have ancestry from deep inland and not just the coasts. I know a Maltese guy who has one of the surnames mentioned above and he can trace back to Agrigento in the 1700s. Remember also that Sicilians came to Malta with these surnames, so if you can figure out when the surnames originated, it had to be after that, that they traveled to Malta.
What is your source for that comment?
 
The muslim expulsion is a long and complex history, after king Ruggero II death, there were three anti-muslim pogroms, and Federico II eradicated muslim presence in Sicily in a civil war between 1219 and 1246. I dunno for Malta if it was the same, I haven't historic books about it, but I know many celanesi settled also in Sicily and Calabria over than Malta, but many of them returned to Abruzzo.

http://www.museodellamarsica.benicu...it/145/storia-di-celano-dalle-origini-al-1227

"I celanesi furono esiliati in Sicilia, Calabria e Malta e l� resteranno fino al 1227."

The Maltese Islands were part of Sicily for 440 years. So all the policies and events were those of Sicily as a whole. Until recently The Maltese Islands were more or less considered as a military strategic out post, mainly because of its excellent harbors. Because of the instability of the time It was in the interest of Federico II to strengthen Malta's defenses by sending Norman and Sicilian and to make sure the policies took place as other wise they can serve as an excellent stepping stone for attacks or invations.

Prof. Wettinger who is a well respected local Medieval historian goes on to say that "there is no doubt that by the beginning of Angevin times [i.e. shortly after 1249] no professed Muslim Maltese remained either as free persons or even as serfs on the island."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Malta
 

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