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Which leaks?According to leaks we have, so far 3 Old Kingdom Egyptians, 2 are E-M78 and 1 Y-DNA T.
Which leaks?According to leaks we have, so far 3 Old Kingdom Egyptians, 2 are E-M78 and 1 Y-DNA T.
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Do mind sharing the details of that theory? I have no idea how Italian Bell Beaker could end up in ancient Egyptians.Thanks!
From that thread: "During the 1st Intermediate Period it seems like a massive influx of Levantine and a smaller amount of Bell Beaker ancestry affected Egypt, or at least affected the elites."
Wow! I put forward the theory that Bell Beaker ancestry came into Egypt in the 1st intermediate period on Anthrogenica years ago!
Let me guess: your assumptions were mocked, dismissed, and brushed aside. You were most likely accused of trying to Europeanize or whitewash ancient Egypt. Right?Thanks!
From that thread: "During the 1st Intermediate Period it seems like a massive influx of Levantine and a smaller amount of Bell Beaker ancestry affected Egypt, or at least affected the elites."
Wow! I put forward the theory that Bell Beaker ancestry came into Egypt in the 1st intermediate period on Anthrogenica years ago!
Do mind sharing the details of that theory? I have no idea how Italian Bell Beaker could end up in ancient Egyptians.
1) I already thought that Sumerian (saggagi) were the creators of Egyptian civilization, it's good to confirm.3: During the predynastic era something strange occurs. We see a change from Neolithic Egyptians that points to Mesopotamia. Sumerian ancestry? Unknown for now but it’s possible the Dynastic Race Theory may have been correct after all.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dynastic_race_theory
the more elite had more of this ancestry
4: During the 1st Intermediate Period and the collapse of the Old Kingdom, there is a massive influx of Bronze Age Levantine ancestry (MBA and LBA Levantines are similar to modern day Palestinian Christians, Samaritans, and Lebanese Christians, in that order; EBA southern Levantines we have so far are closest to Saudis)
The middle kingdom period ended 400 years prior to the advent of the Sea Peoples. I'm more inclined to believe that any southern European ancestry appearing during this era would probably be more linked to Greek or Anatolian populations.Bell Beakers certainly got around the Mediterranean rather early. I'm still skeptical though.
Somewhat of a tangent but the "Shekelesh" Sea People tribe noted by the Egyptians seem connected with the Siculi (Sicels), who in turn were probably a Ligurian-related people inhabiting Latium before many were driven out and migrated to Sicily.
Some maritime Beakers could have gotten around as traders, pirates and mercenaries in the Eastern Mediterranean since well before that.
I didn't think there were any Sumerian samples. It does make sense, alot of those Sumerian statues do look similar to Egyptian ones.1) I already thought that Sumerian (saggagi) were the creators of Egyptian civilization, it's good to confirm.
2) The Biblical story of Israelites in Egypt is kind of confirmed here, since the Middle Kingdom is between 1200-2200 BC.
2200 coincides with the moment of the Bronze Age male linaege expansions.
1200 coincides with the BA collapse and the coming of the Phillistines to the Levant.
Ancient Greeks don't have any beaker ancestry so its going to have to have come from Italy. Excuse my ignorance here but isn't ancient Greek ancestry more akin to Anatolian whereas Southern European ancestry includes to the steppe component.The middle kingdom period ended 400 years prior to the advent of the Sea Peoples. I'm more inclined to believe that any southern European ancestry appearing during this era would probably be more linked to Greek or Anatolian populations.
That being said, the Philistines are much likelier candidates for descendants from the sea peoples and actually do reflect heavy S. Euro introgression during the late bronze and early iron age. Even their pottery was heavily Mycenaean-like.
The bell beaker culture is not a homogenous ancestry profile but just a material culture. It was shared amongst a wide swath of Europeans who had varying genetic profiles during this time. Associating it with a particular type of genetic profile in Europe is erroneous as it was found all over.Ancient Greeks don't have any beaker ancestry so its going to have to have come from Italy. Excuse my ignorance here but isn't ancient Greek ancestry more akin to Anatolian whereas Southern European ancestry includes to the steppe component.
Which recent findings?So these recent findings lend some credence as too why blue eyed ancient egyptian statues exist. I recall many ancient Jews had blue eyes aswell.