Free and independent Kurdistan is coming soon.

[Yetos]

Ajo cfare kuptoj une eshte se ky tipi te cilit i pergjigjesh ne kete postim eshte budalla. Ajo cfare nuk kuptoj eshte se perse vazhdon te merresh me nje idiot. Ka plot tema interesante ketu per te cilat mund te diskutosh. Mos e vazhdo te lutem se eshte shume idiot dhe shume acarues.

budalla, që ju e dini se ju them të vërtetën :grin:

all the world knows, do not hide behind your finger

 

[Yetos]

Who is imam tzelebi ?

According 'Le Monde' the Journal Francais

 

[LeBrok]

Socialism, but I don't support to talk about too much these visual terms. I prefer talk about laws and practises. If there is good and usefull law in Iran, Cuba, Malawi or Ireland, I can take it

Take some from Venezuela, the newest socialist member.
http://www.eupedia.com/forum/thread...-Kurdistan-is-coming-soon?p=466641#post466641
http://www.forbes.com/sites/francescoppola/2015/01/13/the-impending-collapse-of-venezuela/

The best way to discourage people from producing anything is by introducing socialist or communist economy.
How the country with biggest oil fields can have gasoline shortage?!!!
http://www.laht.com/article.asp?ArticleId=334115&CategoryId=10717


It has been proven many times, by many countries, that socialist and communist economy doesn't work. Why are people still trying this is beyond my understanding. Insanity?!

Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results.
Albert Einstein

Read more at http://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/quotes/a/alberteins133991.html#JkawPeCVqFLUjhO9.99

 

[Boreas]

It has been proven many times, by many countries, that socialist and communist economy doesn't work. Why are people still trying this is beyond my understanding. Insanity?!

I knew something like that will come. That's why I said "but I don't support to talk about too much these visual terms."

None of Country which is just rich of underground resources, can't be example for ideal economy.

As Edison said we have just found a way which didn't work.

How do you supporting a economy type which always need to be grow? Can't you see darkness in the end of this circle?

 

[Yetos]

@ lebrok

you removed my post #642
you believe it was due to Ethnic hatred,

ok

I must inform you that this post has many links and names of DAESH and ISIS
AND IS A RESPONSE to #608 deny of truth by Albanian propaganda hoax, and I gave names origins Links etc etc

I call you to restore the post, since contains Truth and articles from all over world about the connections of Albania Tettovo and Kossova with DAESH

it is not a personal, but a truth, described at the newspappers all over the world,

except if you believe that international newspappers are ethnic hatred.

TRUTH IS NOT ETHNIC HATRED, HIDING THE TRUTH IS A CRIME

 

[LeBrok]

@ lebrok

you removed my post #642
you believe it was due to Ethnic hatred,

ok

I must inform you that this post has many links and names of DAESH and ISIS
AND IS A RESPONSE to #608 deny of truth by Albanian propaganda hoax, and I gave names origins Links etc etc

I call you to restore the post, since contains Truth and articles from all over world about the connections of Albania Tettovo and Kossova with DAESH

it is not a personal, but a truth, described at the newspappers all over the world,

except if you believe that international newspappers are ethnic hatred.

TRUTH IS NOT ETHNIC HATRED, HIDING THE TRUTH IS A CRIME

I have my doubts Yetos that you know what Truth is. Besides, your intentions made it a hatred, not the truth. You post only negative information about Albanians, Macedonians or Turks, with only intention to degrade their ethnicities. Try something positive next time to restore objective balance.

 

[DuPidh]

I think he was partly Kurdish. He was killed before he could democratise Turkey. He had a solution to safe Turkey, but at that time Turks still tried to assimilate Kurds. But they failed miserably.
100 years ago there were just 2-3 million Kurds in Northern Kurdistan. And Turks couldn’t even assimilate them. Now there’re 50 million Kurds. Turks are doomed to fail. The best thing for the Turks is a federation between Kurds and Turks. If Turks are not willing to form a federation with Northern Kurdistan, they will be completely defeated. No they will be destroyed.
If Turkey will not start the negotiations with the Kurds, we will see a true Balkanization of Turkey. Parts of Turkey will go to Greece, Georgia, Armenian and Northern Kurdistan will be an independent country. There will be a total GENOCDE of the Turks.

I'm a Kurdish hardliner. I do really want a big war. Big war = shortest way to Great Kurdistan. Personally, I don't like Turks. And I do really hope that Turks continue with what they are doing and that there will be a civil war. I'm 100% sure that Kurds will defeat & destroy Turks during a civil war

According to me the civil war of Turkey, will be the most bloodiest, but also the shortest way to independent Great Kurdistan.

You sound a bit naive! I understand your desire for independence! If I was a Kurd I will do something for the independence. But the civil war is not in the best interest of Kurds. Turkish army strength can not be ignored easy. Armenians underestimated Turks. So did Greeks. Guess what happened? Both populations were either expelled or exterminated! Nothing can guarantee that will not happen again. Who will come to your help? Today's wars can not be wan with Kalashnikovs. The best way is to unify the electorate to get a big chunk of parliamentary vote, and chip away rights of self determinations.

 

[LeBrok]

I knew something like that will come. That's why I said "but I don't support to talk about too much these visual terms."

None of Country which is just rich of underground resources, can't be example for ideal economy.

As Edison said we have just found a way which didn't work.

How do you supporting a economy type which always need to be grow? Can't you see darkness in the end of this circle?

Did Edison try something that failed again and again? No, he always tried different things, till he succeeded. That's why he was successful.
To try socialism or communism in economy again and again, knowing that it failed so many times, is just madness.

None of Country which is just rich of underground resources, can't be example for ideal economy.

Sure, but we have many examples of capitalist based economy in countries without natural resources or few natural resources, like Japan, Hong Kong, Singapore, Holland, Sweden, Switzerland, Israel, and feel free to expand the list. On other hand we have examples of countries rich in natural resources which failed under socialistic economy, like USSR, Venezuela, China, which can tell us a lot how successful socialist economy is. Also, we have many examples of tried socialism in Western Europe during 70s and 80s, when big part of economic sectors were nationalized, which caused economic stagnation and civic unrest in many countries. In 90s and 2000s we saw full reverse towards privatization (capitalism) and regained production and growth.
This reverse from socialism didn't happen in Greece, of course, with known consequences. During this time China opened a big part of its economy to capitalism, which created an explosive growth, creation of 400 million strong middle class, modern cities, modern infrastructure, monumental projects, and nobody dies of hunger in China anymore.
Should we continue with more examples to determine that socialist economy works or not?

It is a different subject how much social programs (socialism, as taking care of society) we should have or afford in countries with capitalist economy. When talking about socialism there are two somewhat different issues. One is economy, the other social structure and assistance programs. After many years of experimentation, West have a model of capitalist production economy, with very strong socialist assistance programs and wealth sharing. The paradox is that the strongest the capitalism in production the more money is made and spent for social services like education, healthcare, social assistance, maternity leave, unemployment support, vacation time, etc.

 

[Alan]

There is no a race old 8000 years throughout the world. It's nonsense. People evolve. The Kurds and Iranians are different ethnicities. You think that the ethnicity doesn't change through millennia. [emoji47] . Weird.

I don't think that the theocratic leaders of Iran are gonna leave the power.

Just don't argue with him. Kurds are hanged constantly in Iran for political reasons. Ultimately we share one origin with Iranians true, but saying we as people should feel close to Iranians because of our ancestry would be like telling Bosnians to feel close to Serbians or Russians to Polish people politically. It's simply out of sense.

 

[Yetos]

I have my doubts Yetos that you know what Truth is. Besides, your intentions made it a hatred, not the truth. You post only negative information about Albanians, Macedonians or Turks, with only intention to degrade their ethnicities. Try something positive next time to restore objective balance.

Le brok
when Albanians accuse me and my people for theocracy and fake genocides and unhistorical lies, you consider it as not hatred,
when I post Le Monde or other newspapper links I am hatred,
This man all days accuses Greece and Greek and denys that Albanian/Kossovo is a strong Theocratic muslim state the 4rth richest in Jihad warriors
and ask for evidences,
and when I give him, you remove post,
IS THAT A NEUTRAL MODERATOR BEHAVOUR?

I will rewrite the post,
and search again if any lie exist in it,

 

[Yetos]

Do you have any evidence to support these 400 daesh soldiers. No. Many of the soldiers who participated in the Syrian war, went before that Isis was formed. The goal was to fight against Assad. Today the number is almost zero. Many citizens of Britain and France went to fight in Syria, this not mean these states are Islamic. Again, do you have any evidence to support your claims against kosova. The only state partly theocratic in Europe is Greece.

Yes I have
you can read the links in your language

http://english.albeu.com/news/news/...-countries-with-more-fighters-in-isis/202887/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n3ovZBh1bak

anyway the number are huge as % of population,
232 known cases from Kossova makes Kossovo the 4rth most Jihadist friendly state per population
and 180 Albanians make Albania the 9th most Jihadist friendly state per population alla over the world,

more evidences
Chief Captains/Saints of DAESH
Abu Bilqis Al Albani
Abu Maryam Al Albani
Abu Muqatil Al Kossovi
Ervin Hasanaj
Lavdrim Muhaxheri or the executioner (he was executing Syrrian hostages at Deir al Zour and videotape it and raise at facebook)

Imam Ismael Tzelebi was arrested at 2014, he was prepairing a group of 40 men to go for training at DAESH

you can search the local Kossovo Albanian speaking newspapper KOHA DITORE

PS
btw do you want to talk also about LISBA? or there is no LISBA to you?

do you need more evidences?

 

[Goga]

There is no a race old 8000 years throughout the world. It's nonsense. People evolve. The Kurds and Iranians are different ethnicities. You think that the ethnicity doesn't change through millennia. [emoji47] . Weird.

I don't think that the theocratic leaders of Iran are gonna leave the power.

Aryan race is 8000 years old. Aryan race evolved from the Sumerians. Since that moment Iranid race was born and, the Kurds didn't change much. Sumerians, Mitanni, Kassites, Medes, Kurds are genetically all the same folks. Mitanni were Aryan, Medes were Aryan etc. That's why I'm telling you that Kurdish Iranid race is at least 8000 years old.

Persians are almost the same as Kurds. Like the Medes, Persians evolved from the Mitanni, who were also Iranid folks.


Persians will get rid of Islam...

 

[Goga]

You sound a bit naive! I understand your desire for independence! If I was a Kurd I will do something for the independence. But the civil war is not in the best interest of Kurds. Turkish army strength can not be ignored easy. Armenians underestimated Turks. So did Greeks. Guess what happened? Both populations were either expelled or exterminated! Nothing can guarantee that will not happen again. Who will come to your help? Today's wars can not be wan with Kalashnikovs. The best way is to unify the electorate to get a big chunk of parliamentary vote, and chip away rights of self determinations.

You are the one who is spreading scary children stories.


Kurds are not the same as Greeks and Armenians. We are natural born warriors. We do belong to an Iranid race. Aryans/Iranid race was always stronger than the Turanic race.

Big changes only come with great wars and revolutions. Kurds NEED a huge war against the Turks. Turks can't defeat the Kurds. If Turks could defeat the Kurds they would do that 100 years ago.
First of all, at one point would not have much resrces for weapons. Also, weapons are nothing and useless in Kurdish mountains. Tank is useless in the mountains etc.
Turks can’t even defeat 2000 Kurdish guerrilla freedom warriors in our beloved Zagros Mountains. How would the Turan race defeat 50 million folks that belong to Iranid race?

When Turks comitted a genocide on Greeks and Armenians, there lived not very much people at the first place.

There're 50 million Kurds. Kurds are much better fighters than Turks. Without Kurds, Turks would never win a battle.


If Turks continue like this, Kurds will genocide the Turks and not vice versa

 

[DuPidh]

You are the one who is spreading scary children stories.


Kurds are not the same as Greeks and Armenians. We are natural born warriors. We do belong to an Iranid race. Aryans/Iranid race was always stronger than the Turanic race.

Big changes only come with great wars and revolutions. Kurds NEED a huge war against the Turks. Turks can't defeat the Kurds. If Turks could defeat the Kurds they would do that 100 years ago.
First of all, at one point would not have much resrces for weapons. Also, weapons are nothing and useless in Kurdish mountains. Tank is useless in the mountains etc.
Turks can’t even defeat 2000 Kurdish guerrilla freedom warriors in our beloved Zagros Mountains. How would the Turan race defeat 50 million folks that belong to Iranid race?

When Turks comitted a genocide on Greeks and Armenians, there lived not very much people at the first place.

You appear to have no realistic evaluation of situation. I don't know where you live but it does not appear you live somewhere in Kurdistan. If it was that easy Kurds

There're 50 million Kurds. Kurds are much better fighters than Turks. Without Kurds, Turks would never win a battle.

I don't have anything against Kurdish race! I have not met any Kurd and I don't know anyone personally but I have respect for Middle eastern people.
Middle eastern people are largely responsible for many contributions to human civilization and largely misunderstood in the west. But lets be honest! Militarily you are not match for Turks. At least in the current situation. Kurds can be brave and great fighters but you have no weapons! Turkish military is quite modern and effective!
When Turkey was weak country your forefathers did nothing. The wars now are devastating and the accuracy of killing is astonishing.
You appear to be an Iranian sympathizer in my eyes. But is Iran willing to support you in a struggle with Turkey?

 

[DuPidh]

You are the one who is spreading scary children stories.


Kurds are not the same as Greeks and Armenians. We are natural born warriors. We do belong to an Iranid race. Aryans/Iranid race was always stronger than the Turanic race.

Big changes only come with great wars and revolutions. Kurds NEED a huge war against the Turks. Turks can't defeat the Kurds. If Turks could defeat the Kurds they would do that 100 years ago.
First of all, at one point would not have much resrces for weapons. Also, weapons are nothing and useless in Kurdish mountains. Tank is useless in the mountains etc.
Turks can’t even defeat 2000 Kurdish guerrilla freedom warriors in our beloved Zagros Mountains. How would the Turan race defeat 50 million folks that belong to Iranid race?

When Turks comitted a genocide on Greeks and Armenians, there lived not very much people at the first place.

There're 50 million Kurds. Kurds are much better fighters than Turks. Without Kurds, Turks would never win a battle.


If Turks continue like this, Kurds will genocide the Turks and not vice versa

I dont really know when you say we are Iranian people. Iran is an amalgam of ethnicity with Azerbaijanis as the second largest ethnicity. Do you mean Persian when you say Iranian?

 

[Boreas]

Did Edison try something that failed again and again? No, he always tried different things, till he succeeded. That's why he was successful.
To try socialism or communism in economy again and again, knowing that it failed so many times, is just madness.

This is very limited and narrow perspective. You are seeing that Socialism is just a way so you think that Socialism is wrong failed way, but I am seeing that Venezulla is just a way and Venezulla is just a wrong fail way.

Sure, but we have many examples of capitalist based economy in countries without natural resources or few natural resources, like Japan, Hong Kong, Singapore, Holland, Sweden, Switzerland, Israel, and feel free to expand the list.

Hong Kong and Singapore also bad extrem examples, but it is very good to see limitations of Capitalism, All capitalism system can't live ownself.


As you said Communist systems are collapsing and capitalist systems are envoling and become more social. This is also example that both of them are not a answer and answer is somewhere between them.

 

[Goga]

Militarily you are not match for Turks. At least in the current situation. Kurds can be brave and great fighters but you have no weapons! Turkish military is quite modern and effective!

And once again, Turks with their so called modern, advanced and effective weapons can't even defeat 2000 PKK warriors, let alone 50 million Kurds.

Turks with help of NATO are fighting the PKK for 40 years and can't even defeat a few thousands of freedom fighters. Let Turks defeat PKK first, then we will talk. Otherwise this discussion is useless.


Pff, Turkish army is nothing, absolutely NOTHING, just a bunch of children compared to PKK Aryan warriors!

 

[Piro Ilir]

Socialism, but I don't support to talk about too much these visual terms. I prefer talk about laws and practises. If there is good and usefull law in Iran, Cuba, Malawi or Ireland, I can take it

Trust me, I was born in a socialist country. It was really disgusting, tremendous and awful.

 

[Piro Ilir]

Ajo cfare kuptoj une eshte se ky tipi te cilit i pergjigjesh ne kete postim eshte budalla. Ajo cfare nuk kuptoj eshte se perse vazhdon te merresh me nje idiot. Ka plot tema interesante ketu per te cilat mund te diskutosh. Mos e vazhdo te lutem se eshte shume idiot dhe shume acarues.

Naiher ene idjotet bojn pun [emoji6]. But we should talk in english in respect of the other members.

 

[Piro Ilir]

budalla, që ju e dini se ju them të vërtetën :grin:

all the world knows, do not hide behind your finger

What the world knows. It looks like the only one who knows everything what's going on, are you. The master of rumors. [emoji23]