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Free and independent Kurdistan is coming soon.

@ Alan

wait to see, the game does not finish here,
wait when the Oyghurs arrive at Daesh land,
China brought Aircarriers at 2014 at |East mediterrenean, and is planning again to bring
and EU simply argues about immigrants,
did not take any serious military action yet,
wait to see Boco Haram travel to Syria

it is a long way there,
may the Gods show mercy there,
cause we live the times of Eris of the 5th Human era, the start of the end of Iron race,


I really don't care who conducts the airstrikes, as long as it is against Daesh and
affiliated groups. Russia, China and US and more can join. As long as they don't attack my people for geopolitical reasons I am fine. The only country current I see conducting airstrikes against Kurds (most likely on behalf on Daesh and affiliated groups) is Turkey.
 
. The only country current I see conducting airstrikes against Kurds (most likely on behalf on Daesh and affiliated groups) is Turkey.

this is because the kurds are pushing back ISIL from all kurdish lands, but the kurds will not enter "arabic lands". The Turks are supporting ISIL by bombing the kurds and the annoying part is that the USA is not stopping them even though the kurds are aiding the USA against ISIL.
the weak iraqi sunni army is defecting to ISIL while the iraqi shite portion is not.

I can only see the following for peace in the area

a split of the iraqi nation

a split of the syrian nation

a creation of kurdistan nation at the expense of northern iraq and turkish lands ................something which will only happen only if Edgoran sits on the turkish "throne "
 
this is because the kurds are pushing back ISIL from all kurdish lands, but the kurds will not enter "arabic lands". The Turks are supporting ISIL by bombing the kurds and the annoying part is that the USA is not stopping them even though the kurds are aiding the USA against ISIL.
the weak iraqi sunni army is defecting to ISIL while the iraqi shite portion is not.

I can only see the following for peace in the area

a split of the iraqi nation

a split of the syrian nation

a creation of kurdistan nation at the expense of northern iraq and turkish lands ................something which will only happen only if Edgoran sits on the turkish "throne "


See my comment above
Alan said:
Unfortunately I doubt they will do anything if their allies start to attack the Kurds either. Just like Russia didn't bother the decades Syrian Regime attacks and US the FSA-Turkey attacks on Kurdish territory. They will call it "internal problems" and remain silent.


Until now Turkey has conducted over 100 airstrikes against PKK, but only one (according to themselves and this not even verified) against ISIS.
 
this is because the kurds are pushing back ISIL from all kurdish lands, but the kurds will not enter "arabic lands". The Turks are supporting ISIL by bombing the kurds and the annoying part is that the USA is not stopping them even though the kurds are aiding the USA against ISIL.
the weak iraqi sunni army is defecting to ISIL while the iraqi shite portion is not.

I can only see the following for peace in the area

a split of the iraqi nation

a split of the syrian nation

a creation of kurdistan nation at the expense of northern iraq and turkish lands ................something which will only happen only if Edgoran sits on the turkish "throne "

I agree with that but I think
Iraq will split to 3

Arab south Kurdish North and Bagdath East

same with Syrria,
to Assant
to Arabs
to Kurds

Turkey is in big problem now,
Russia is not PKK
and USA still is to far,

BUT FROM WHAT I READ TODAY,
SAUDI ARABIA IS ABOUT TO BUY EXPENSIVE MODERN WEAPONRY TO SUPPORT GUERILLA WAR IN SYRIA
AS YOU SEE
IT IS MADNESS, AND THE ONE WHO WAS BEHIND WAS INDEED SAUDIs homeland of OSAMA (or OBAMA?)
soon they have political problem there and next king is obvious ask help from radical imams

anyway neither USA neither China said their last word yet,
war might expand to Balkans or China Oyugurs
EU still keeps a neutral stance, rather anti-terror,
 
Russian war plane invades Turkish airspace! It is unnerving for Turkey because this particular region is disputed with Syria.

http://www.wsj.com/articles/turkey-...t-violated-its-airspace-with-syria-1444040488
russian-fighter-jet-plane.jpg


I don't think anything significant will turn out of it. Russians are known to test their neighbors military readiness, in this case neighbors of Syria.
 
this is because the kurds are pushing back ISIL from all kurdish lands, but the kurds will not enter "arabic lands". The Turks are supporting ISIL by bombing the kurds and the annoying part is that the USA is not stopping them even though the kurds are aiding the USA against ISIL.
the weak iraqi sunni army is defecting to ISIL while the iraqi shite portion is not.

I can only see the following for peace in the area

a split of the iraqi nation

a split of the syrian nation

a creation of kurdistan nation at the expense of northern iraq and turkish lands ................something which will only happen only if Edgoran sits on the turkish "throne "


Just while we are at it. Yesterday a video and image went viral. The son in law of one of the HDP (Pro Kurdish party) politicians and an artist was killed by a police during drive by shooting without any reason and his corp was dragged bound to the vehicles through the streets. Necrophilia in ISIS manner. Same people in different dress.

Turkey: Image of Kurdish man's body being dragged through streets by Turkish soldiers goes viral [PHOTOS+ VIDEO]


An image purportedly showing a Turkish army truck dragging the body of a Kurdish man through the streets of Sirnak, a Turkish town in south-eastern Turkey, has gone viral. The photo, widely being circulated online, has caused an outrage in the Turkish town, where hundreds participated in the funeral of the dead man on Sunday.
The 24-year Kurdish youth identified as HacI Lokman Birlik, the brother-in-law of pro-Kurdish Peoples' Democratic Party (HDP) Sirnak deputy Leyla Birlik, was shot dead by the Turkish special forces on Friday night (2 October), a report said.



HDP Co-chair Selahattin Demirtas, a Kurdish politician who is a co-leader of the left-wing pro-Kurdish Peoples' Democratic Party (HDP) who uploaded the image on his social media accounts wrote: "Take a good look at this picture. It was taken yesterday in Sirnak. Do not forget this, because we will not forget".
Turkey, which initially had denied the incident, later in a statement claimed that the body of the youth was dragged on the streets as it was suspected that he was wearing a suicide vest, according to a report in Sabah.

Save Kobane, a pro-Kurdish Facebook group shared the image on its wall with the caption: "This is not ISIS, not Saudi Arabia nor Iran. This is the Turkish military, a NATO member and US ally, dragging the body of a Kurdish youth behind an armoured vehicle in Şirnak, northern Kurdistan. This is not the nineties, this is yesterday. He was a civilian, his name was Hacı Lokman Birlik, and he was 24 years old. How can the world still remain silent? Don't forget, because we won't forget.
‪#‎TurkishTerrorState‬ ‪#‎Turkey‬ ‪#‎KurdsUnderTurkishAttack‬."
For the past several weeks, a heavy fighting has been on between Turkish forces and the Kurdistan Workers Party (PKK) in Sirnak province. The Turkish forces have been accused of heinous crimes against the locals in the name of suppressing the PKK -- which is listed as a terror group by Turkey.
A video claimed to have been shot by the Turkish soldiers also has been shared online.


Yep since Kurds are known to wear suicide vest. What a miserable simply typical Turkish claim and excuse. First they denied it and brought photoshoped images out. Later when the Video appeared they couldn't deny it anymore and claim he had a suicide vest. But on the video it is obviously visible he isn't wearing anything close to a vest. According to eye witnesses he was standing on the street side while a Turkish police vehicles stopped and guns fired at him. In the video you also see how they insult the dead body.



http://www.ibtimes.co.in/turkey-ima...ing-dragged-through-streets-goes-viral-649131

Kurdish-militant-04-10-2015.jpg



while on it racist turkish cyber hackers (probably payed by the government) are doing their best to get the videos removed from various website with the logic (if their is no clear prove, you are not guilty) the same way they support ISIS "without prove".

But here is the video. Does this corp look like he was "wearing a suicide vest"?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8xVKV2NHCwE
 
Russian war plane invades Turkish airspace! It is unnerving for Turkey because this particular region is disputed with Syria.

http://www.wsj.com/articles/turkey-...t-violated-its-airspace-with-syria-1444040488
russian-fighter-jet-plane.jpg


I don't think anything significant will turn out of it. Russians are known to test their neighbors military readiness, in this case neighbors of Syria.

If you want to bomb ISIS, you have to violate Turkish airpace. May Russia not only invade Turkish airsprace but freakn bomb the hell out of it, would love to see how Turkey is doing with countries who can actually defend themselves. As long as I remember Turkey has always bullied groups and countries who were either weakned or couldn't defend themselves.

Didn't Turkey invade Syrian airspace various times themselves? How about tasting their own medicine once themselves. If they are so tuff lets see their reaction against Russia. Bullying your weakned neighbor is always easy.
 
too many delusional fantasies going around here.

1. First and major reason for Russia finally starting their airstrikes in Syria is that Damascus regime is on the edge of destruction. When Russia announced their plans of airstrikes and ground forces, ISIS and/or FSA had just reached the doors of Damascus. It's all about saving the own ally in the Near East and not really the ISIS threat. The ISIS threat doesn't exist just since yesterday so why not conduct airstrikes on ISIS earlier? Anyways didn't the West start their airstrikes much earlier while Russia and China were using their veto to stop any inteference in Syria? And now while Russia is doing it themselve everyone seems happy. It's a little bit paradox there. So whats all this fuss about Russian airstries? It's definitely good if they want to hit ISIS. But I even see people who were completely against US airstrikes suddenly praising and supporting those airstrikes. So is it really about the "fight against ISIS and the airstrikes" or in reality just about who conducts them?

2. Russia has realized that ISIS (a large part of them Russian citizens) is becoming a danger for Russia and it's allies themselves.

3. Neither the West nor the East will start to bomb the Kurds. One reason for this is, Kurds have managed to gain popularity and the image of the third, neutral and only realy democratic group in Syria. Non of the two sides could justify an attack on Kurds. Neither Putin nor the too passive Obama is the enemy of the Kurds. Russia invited various times Kurdish representatives from Iraq and Syria and gave support for Kurdish ambitions so did US representatives. This is why Putin acknowledged in his UN speech that Kurds and "Assad" are the only once really fighting ISIS and should be supported.


4. It seems to me like "Kurds" have become a synonym for "the good guys" in this conflict that both sides are using the Kurds like an attribute in combination with their own allies to give them more credibility and popularity. This is why the US talks always about "the brave Kurds and their Rebel 'rebel allies'." this makes the impression that "rebels must be also good guys since they are the allies of the Kurds who we know are the good Guys". The same with the Damascus regime. "Well if the Damascus regime is also fighting the ISIS just like the Kurds, who we know are good guys, than the Regime can't be so bad at all".

Being associated with Kurds in this conflict seems to be good promo. If we Kurds are smart we could use this for our own benefits and I think our politicians are not dumb and they are already doing this. Neverless this doesn't change the fact for me that the Damascus regime has lost it's credibility and should never again gain the control of all Syria. Syria must be ruled or even divided by the different groups, there is no way around that. As much I don't trust the "Syrian rebels" who change their colors from one day to another and are often almost identical to JAN(Al Qaida) and ISIS. Those "Rebels" gaining control of all Syria would be as a big catastrophy. It would become a training camp for ISIS/Al Qaida affiliated groups.

5. When ISIS is gone I highly doubt that Russia will conduct attacks on Kurds on behalf of the Damascus regime in fact I assume they will try to find a consensus between Damascus and Kurds. So will the US, they also try to find a consensus between Rebel-groups and Kurds. Non of the both will attack the Kurds on behalf of their allies.

Unfortunately I doubt they will do anything if their allies start to attack the Kurds either. Just like Russia didn't bother the decades Syrian Regime attacks and US the FSA-Turkey attacks on Kurdish territory. They will call it "internal problems" and remain silent.


So no need for wet dreams
Russia is bombing only the FSA. Till now there are no bombs against the ISIS . Russia is more concerned about FSA. NATO seems to be upset about this. I see problems there
 
I agree with that but I think
Iraq will split to 3

Arab south Kurdish North and Bagdath East

same with Syrria,
to Assant
to Arabs
to Kurds

Turkey is in big problem now,
Russia is not PKK
and USA still is to far,

BUT FROM WHAT I READ TODAY,
SAUDI ARABIA IS ABOUT TO BUY EXPENSIVE MODERN WEAPONRY TO SUPPORT GUERILLA WAR IN SYRIA
AS YOU SEE
IT IS MADNESS, AND THE ONE WHO WAS BEHIND WAS INDEED SAUDIs homeland of OSAMA (or OBAMA?)
soon they have political problem there and next king is obvious ask help from radical imams

anyway neither USA neither China said their last word yet,
war might expand to Balkans or China Oyugurs
EU still keeps a neutral stance, rather anti-terror,
And who against whom is gonna fight in Balkans?
 
If you want to bomb ISIS, you have to violate Turkish airpace. May Russia not only invade Turkish airsprace but freakn bomb the hell out of it, would love to see how Turkey is doing with countries who can actually defend themselves. As long as I remember Turkey has always bullied groups and countries who were either weakned or couldn't defend themselves.

Didn't Turkey invade Syrian airspace various times themselves? How about tasting their own medicine once themselves. If they are so tuff lets see their reaction against Russia. Bullying your weakned neighbor is always easy.
Their are not bombing ISIS. Indeed they are bombing FSA.
 
Russia nor Iran nor kurds will ever allow that syria and Iraq will become totally sunni

I said before , the war is about Sunni .v. Shite ............Assad will be replaced in due course , but changing him, by a new leader , an example a sunni or shite leader will not resolve anything.

Do not fight on 2 fronts.............take care of ISIL first , then change Syria
 
They are bombing ISIL in northern iraq
 
Kurdish MP: 4-nation coalition kicks off without Kurdish presence

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A coalition with the Iraqis and without the Kurds, yeah sure.

Is there still need to explain that in this dirty game it is not about ISIS but West and their allies vs East and their allies. I mean just look at this alliance it's a freakn joke. Iran, Iraq, Syria (all western enemies). Whats the criteria for this coalition? Is it really ISIS or is it, who is the biggest anti Western countries?

I remember the Kurds not being invited to coalition meeting once in Europe because of the Iraqi PM refuting to accept it. People were rightfully outrageous about that.

All I see here is alliances build behind the Kurds , the only group that really deserves to be invited in any meeting is left out as usual.
http://rudaw.net/english/middleeast/iraq/06102015

And this despite Erbil welcoming Russia into the war with ISIS
Erbil welcomes Russia into ISIS war, urging coordination for better outcome

http://rudaw.net/english/kurdistan/031020153

So once again I really feel sorry to destroy the bubble for some people but the reality is different from the wet dreams.
 
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Hopefully Russia will realize that a coalition with Iraqi Army is a waste of time and invites the Kurds.
 
They are bombing ISIL in northern iraq

I think Putin has no choice but fight rebels and ISIS at the same time. I see him also turning against Kurds in SYRIA. Through keeping Syria's territory united he wins many friends in Syria, pacifies Turkey, and also allows him to negotiate an Asad removal. The west will not give up the sanctions if Putin does not come to terms with western powers demands. Putin still tries to convince the west that Russia is a major power in Europe and the world. In fact he is exposing the weakness of Russian army. Russia still has an under digitalised weaponry and 1980 technology. You have to be prepared that USA will expose their weakness soon. The rebel army will soon start shooting their planes.
 
They are bombing ISIL in noern iraq

Ha,ha,ha......
Russian missile aimed at ISIS in Syria land in Iran instead. 4 of them. I will not be surprised that any one of them could land in Putins head.
 
I think Putin has no choice but fight rebels and ISIS at the same time. I see him also turning against Kurds in SYRIA. Through keeping Syria's territory united he wins many friends in Syria, pacifies Turkey, and also allows him to negotiate an Asad removal. The west will not give up the sanctions if Putin does not come to terms with western powers demands. Putin still tries to convince the west that Russia is a major power in Europe and the world. In fact he is exposing the weakness of Russian army. Russia still has an under digitalised weaponry and 1980 technology. You have to be prepared that USA will expose their weakness soon. The rebel army will soon start shooting their planes.

Something bothers, actually why are you posting under a false flag? The way your posts have been pro Turkish it can't be simply coincidence.

Do you honestly thing. NATO will risk a war with Russia for the not so loyal and listening Turkey? Russias weakness? USA will expose what? Holy cow that guy seriously believes there will be a direct war between US and Russia over Syria.

And sorry to burst your bubble. Russia will not attack the Kurds, they made this clear from the first minute they entered Syria. But no one can guarantee if Assad will not try. But than I doubt Assad will ever gain control over all of Syria again.
 
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