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Wow, this was an interesting thread that has totally gone to the dogs thanks to all this nationalistic crap.
I will try to stay on topic and speak about genetic origin of Peloponneseans (I am half Peloponnesean half italian, btw). Nobody questions that Peloponneseans and/or other Greeks have some Arvanite heritage. From what I've read somewhere it is estimated to be around 10%-15% on average based on number of settlements and population compared to the total, in the 19th century. And WE DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THAT, the Arvanites were assimilated very early, fought bravely side by side with the older Greeks against the occupiers and they have always embraced their Greek identity. Plus, both Greek and Arbanite populations have lived in the region side by side for millenia, there is even a theory that Pelasgians and Illyrianns were related, therefore it is very difficult to differentiate them based on haplogroups or autosomal markers.
But as others said, this paper is NOT about the Arvanites; it is about the genetic similarities between modern Peloponneseans and the invading slavic tribes of the 6th-7th century.
Oh, and since certain contributors want to drag us back to the pre-genetic era when Fallmerayer's nonsense was popular among 19th century German romantisists, they should look up the grudge he had with King Otto of Greece.
I will try to stay on topic and speak about genetic origin of Peloponneseans (I am half Peloponnesean half italian, btw). Nobody questions that Peloponneseans and/or other Greeks have some Arvanite heritage. From what I've read somewhere it is estimated to be around 10%-15% on average based on number of settlements and population compared to the total, in the 19th century. And WE DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THAT, the Arvanites were assimilated very early, fought bravely side by side with the older Greeks against the occupiers and they have always embraced their Greek identity. Plus, both Greek and Arbanite populations have lived in the region side by side for millenia, there is even a theory that Pelasgians and Illyrianns were related, therefore it is very difficult to differentiate them based on haplogroups or autosomal markers.
But as others said, this paper is NOT about the Arvanites; it is about the genetic similarities between modern Peloponneseans and the invading slavic tribes of the 6th-7th century.
Oh, and since certain contributors want to drag us back to the pre-genetic era when Fallmerayer's nonsense was popular among 19th century German romantisists, they should look up the grudge he had with King Otto of Greece.