Politics Here we go again: Right wing nationalism on the rise again in Europe

gyms said:
Possible Terrorist Attack in Toronto – 5 Dead, More Casualties Reported

https://www.theepochtimes.com/possi...-5-dead-more-casualties-reported_2502169.html

Around 10 people were injured when a van struck a crowd of people in Toronto on Monday afternoon, April 23, according to reports. A suspect was arrested.
The Toronto Police said that between 8 and 10 people were struck around Yonge Street south of Finch Avenue when a white van went down the sidewalk. The driver was later arrested, CTV reported.
Several media outlets have reported that five people were killed in the attack.
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Not a terrorist attack, at least not driven by religious extremism, I can tell you that. Just a psychopath modeling a massacre off that Rodgers guy a few years ago. I can say he really didn't accomplish much, killing grandmas, middle aged men and women, and a handful of foreign students. Unfortunately if he is a genuine psychopath, which I think he is, he will never feel remorse or live with these scars, and will just be wasting tax dollars in a cell.
 
Angela said:
I hold no brief for Donald Trump.

I think he's a buffoon, and he's erratic and temperamentally unsuited for the job, imo. That's why I didn't vote for him. He's not, however, although it may appear so to Europeans, a right wing nationalist of the type taking power in eastern Europe. He's not a fascist, whatever the hysterical voices on the left here might say. Europe has a long history of fascism, and in eastern Europe, in particular, monarchies were succeeded by fascist governments, and then by Communist totalitarianism with only a few decades here and there of democracy. They also have a long history of genocidal anti-semitism which could easily turn into murderous anti-Middle Easterner. What could easily happen there could never happen here.

I know Europeans and I know Americans equally well and the differences are profound.

I'm very worried about how things will go.
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J'adore your leftist agenda!

"Anti-Semitism did not begin with Adolf Hitler: Anti-Semitic attitudes date back to ancient times."

Is this Eastern Europe?

"Some Jews became prominent in banking and moneylending, because early Christianity didn’t permit moneylending for interest. This resulted in economic resentment which forced the expulsion of Jews from several European countries including France, Germany, Portugal and Spain during the fourteenth and fifteenth centuries."

https://www.history.com/topics/anti-semitism

"Cicero uses an important phrase to describe the Jewish religion: barbara superstitio."
https://mosaicmagazine.com/picks/20...rs-who-laid-the-foundations-of-anti-semitism/

"It would be writers, and the Roman state, who fused anti-Jewish sentiments into a unified political doctrine. That very doctrine has undergirded the long-lasting entanglement of ethnic and religious hatred that is central to modern-day anti-Jewish prejudice."
https://www.publicmedievalist.com/anti-semitism-older-think/

The Italian Racial Laws
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Italian_Racial_Laws
 
gyms said:
J'adore your leftist agenda!

"Anti-Semitism did not begin with Adolf Hitler: Anti-Semitic attitudes date back to ancient times."

Is this Eastern Europe?

"Some Jews became prominent in banking and moneylending, because early Christianity didn’t permit moneylending for interest. This resulted in economic resentment which forced the expulsion of Jews from several European countries including France, Germany, Portugal and Spain during the fourteenth and fifteenth centuries."

https://www.history.com/topics/anti-semitism

"Cicero uses an important phrase to describe the Jewish religion: barbara superstitio."
https://mosaicmagazine.com/picks/20...rs-who-laid-the-foundations-of-anti-semitism/

"It would be writers, and the Roman state, who fused anti-Jewish sentiments into a unified political doctrine. That very doctrine has undergirded the long-lasting entanglement of ethnic and religious hatred that is central to modern-day anti-Jewish prejudice."
https://www.publicmedievalist.com/anti-semitism-older-think/

The Italian Racial Laws
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Italian_Racial_Laws
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Continue with your provocative, anti-semitic fueled posts and you'll get an infraction. You've been warned.

For the upteenth time, I'm the antithesis of a leftist. Only in Europe is someone who is against racism and anti-semitism automatically labeled a leftist.
 
Angela said:
Continue with your provocative, anti-semitic fueled posts and you'll get an infraction. You've been warned.

For the upteenth time, I'm the antithesis of a leftist. Only in Europe is someone who is against racism and anti-semitism automatically labeled a leftist.
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I kindly ask you to show me the anti-semitic in my posts.
However, the article you linked is
pure propaganda of the Hungarian liberal bolshevik opposition specially written and traslated into different languges for Western newspapers.

About Mr.Vona

cited in the highly credible and objective The NewYork Times: well, Mr Vona is a real radical nationalist,more precisely...a nazi.


I do not recommend his words as holy argument.
 
gyms said:
J'adore your leftist agenda!

"Anti-Semitism did not begin with Adolf Hitler: Anti-Semitic attitudes date back to ancient times."

Is this Eastern Europe?

"Some Jews became prominent in banking and moneylending, because early Christianity didn’t permit moneylending for interest. This resulted in economic resentment which forced the expulsion of Jews from several European countries including France, Germany, Portugal and Spain during the fourteenth and fifteenth centuries."

https://www.history.com/topics/anti-semitism

"Cicero uses an important phrase to describe the Jewish religion: barbara superstitio."
https://mosaicmagazine.com/picks/20...rs-who-laid-the-foundations-of-anti-semitism/

"It would be writers, and the Roman state, who fused anti-Jewish sentiments into a unified political doctrine. That very doctrine has undergirded the long-lasting entanglement of ethnic and religious hatred that is central to modern-day anti-Jewish prejudice."
https://www.publicmedievalist.com/anti-semitism-older-think/

The Italian Racial Laws
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Italian_Racial_Laws
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Your knowledge of anti-semitism, European history, and obviously Italian history, is clearly flawed, or you deliberately intend to be provocative and disruptive.

In general, anti-semitism has been a feature of European history and politics beginning largely after the institution of Christianity as the state religion of the Roman Empire.

It has, however, been at its most virulent and violent in Germany and Eastern Europe, starting with the Crusades and ending with the Holocaust.

In today's world, the only part of Europe where it is totally open, widespread, and virulent is Eastern Europe. Sorry if that bothers you, but facts are facts.

Now stop trying to provoke me by posting about the Italian Racial Laws, which I already brought up myself, and which were promulgated in response to pressure from Nazi Germany. There was nothing anti-semitic about fascism as conceived by Mussolini. You guys owned that. Accept it.
 
Angela 1.:

"Now stop trying to provoke me by posting about the Italian Racial Laws..."

Angela 2.:"Well, in their case, their last really "autochthonous" government was a fascist one, so there you go."

-Now stop trying to provoke others by humiliate the Hungarian people!

Or are there only certain people entitled to provoke?Nice.
 
@gyms

You've received an infraction for non-respect for moderator's warning, for continuing your provocative behavior.

Also, don't misrepresent what other's say by deleting the latter part:

"Now stop trying to provoke me by posting about the Italian Racial Laws, which I already brought up myself, and which were promulgated in response to pressure from Nazi Germany. There was nothing anti-semitic about fascism as conceived by Mussolini. You guys owned that. Accept it."
 
Angela:"In today's world, the only part of Europe where it is totally open, widespread, and virulent is Eastern Europe. Sorry if that bothers you, but facts are facts."

Wich facts are you referring to?
The real virulent part of Europe is actually Western Europe.Look at Sweden,Belgien,France,Germany,Holland,Englnd,Greece,Italy and so one.

https://www.timesofisrael.com/topic/muslim-anti-semitism-in-europe/

In Hungary – by different estimations – there are more than 120 thousand Jew lives, most of them in Budapest. There are around forty synagogues working under the supervision of the Federation, twenty in the capital with at least weekly religious services. In the countryside there is a renaissance of the active Jewish cultural and religious life.

http://www.mazsihisz.hu/about-mazsihisz-37.html
 
i recently listened to a conversation between 2 guys in the train. i don't know where exactly they came from they spoke this kind of german with this strange pronounciation, "jugodütsch", very common among immigrants. even many people without migration background are talking like this nowadays. one probably came from iran and the other one probably from tunesia based on some things he said. the tunesian told the other one a story in which he started to talk with a group of maroccans. they said hello in arabic and he replied in arabic too. when they realized he spoke arabic and carried a cross around his neck they became aggressive and asked him wtf was wrong with him. an older maroccan then had to intervene. or that he was at a meeting with maroccans in france and how ****** france is because there are so many north africans there.
the other then said that france did massive bs in marocco and kinda deserves it. the tuneisian then said that the arabs did the same to which the other one replied that the arabs and also the ottomans where not into slavery and did not enslave the people they conquered and that they just conquered the region and left the inhabitants alone. the other one agreed.

you know your immigration policy is bs when even the foreigners laugh about it.
 
Angela said:
Impact of Hungarian nationalism on science:

See
http://science.sciencemag.org/conte...mag_2018-05-10&et_rid=34987048&et_cid=2025662
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Oh,yeah?
Kata Karáth is a genuine left-wing liberal activist.
Both "Central European University" and "Közép-európai Egyetem" are owned by Soros.

http://www.kormany.hu/en/ministry-o...soros-university-that-issues-american-degrees

The HAC accredited the Central European University, which issues Hungarian diplomas and operates according to Hungarian regulations at the request of the institution itself, in view of the fact that the university’s five-year accreditation expired on 31 December 2017.
With relation to the CEU, which operates according to U.S. law and issues American diplomas under the auspices of American accreditation, and which accordingly may be regarded as an offshore university, the investigation is still ongoing with relation to whether it performs any education activities at all in its own country of origin. The law is applicable to all universities, including the Soros University.

Viktor Orbán’s bigoted vision leaves me ashamed to be Hungarian Kata Karáth
https://www.theguardian.com/comment...gary-young-national-pride-viktor-orban-europe


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d0pY0NHgC2E
 
Angela said:
Impact of Hungarian nationalism on science:

See
http://science.sciencemag.org/conte...mag_2018-05-10&et_rid=34987048&et_cid=2025662
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The situation of the Hungarian Academy of Sciences during the Socialist Party's (MSZP) government:
https://www.nature.com/articles/442353b

http://www.nature.com/articles/4411034b

Gyurcsány Ferenc was Prime Minister of Hungary from 2004 to 2009.


Socialist democracy:

Gyurcsány admits lying to win elections in Hungary
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cZGbz00n8-Q

Postmodern objectivity:
"No one was shot, no one was tortured"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6rCYeSPZEuY
 
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Hungary under Viktor Orban

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V_b0yYJWsKk

Some comments:



So, lets make it clear: the UK is the bastion of libetalism by literally imprisoning everyone who mentions the staged trial of Tommy Robbinson, that happened several days ago, and Hungary is opressing the media, because a guy had money to buy a newspaper belonging to the opposition, and then he dared to fire people from his own company.Does anyone see a problem here? Something like double standards, something about free markets, a difference between a republic and a kingdom maybe? Just askin'...





This jokeparty "Dialogue for Hungary" got 3/199 seats in the hungarian Parlament. Why are these people always portrayed as representatives of the hungarian public? I guess its hard to find some left-wing party or newspaper in country that voted 70% far-right.



Hungary is not "under Viktor Orban". It is under the will of the people.
 
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