if spanish and portugese are heavily celtic why are some dark?

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SPANIARDS :


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PORTUGUESE :

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OK. If you want us to pretend that there aren't Tom Jones or Sean Connery archetypes in the British Isles... I'll pretend it.
 
Mediterranean types are found in all Europe :
Germany, England, Wales, Scotland, Belgium, Switzerland, etc, etc..
About Dark hair : It is the most common in all europeans. Germany or Netherlands are majority not-blonde, contrary to the popular belief.
 
Now, all those here who are clueless about what Iberians REALLY look like, please don't be shocked or disturbed by the images posted above. No need to worry, you have not been abducted by aliens or lost your sanity. :LOL:
 
iberian mediterraneans are shorter darker and darker eyed

Spain's average height is basically the same as France, check out some sources before making rubbish assumptions. After this and the fact that you posted a racial map from one of Hitler's gurus (Madison Grant) I don't know if you're just misinformed or being a troll.
 
Madison Grant...:LOL: He's in the same league as the deranged, racist "physical anthropologist", Carlton Coon. The latter is such a disgrace that his bio has been removed from certain encyclopedias. Coon, like Grant, has been reduced to a footnote in the dust-bin of history. Did I just hear someone flushing the toilet? :LOL:
 
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It depends who measures, I guess

Country and average male height:

Argentina 174.46 cm (5 ft 8.6 in)
Australia 178.4 cm (5' 10.2")
Bahrain 165.1 cm (5' 5")
Belgium 176.6 cm (5' 9.5")
Brazil 169.0 cm (5' 6.5")
Cameroon 170.6 cm (5' 7.2")
Canada 174 cm (5' 8.5")
China (PRC) 164.8 cm (5' 4.9")
China 169.4 cm (5' 6.7")
Colombia 170.64 cm (5' 7.2")
Côte d'Ivoire 170.1 cm (5' 7")
Czech Republic 180.3 cm (5' 11")
Denmark 180.6 cm (5' 11.1")
Dinaric Alps 185.6 cm (6' 1.0")
Estonia 179.1 cm (5' 10.5")
Finland 178.2 cm (5' 10")
France 174.1 cm (5' 8.5")
Ghana 169.46 cm (5' 6.7")
Gambia 168.0 cm (5' 6.1")
Germany 178.1 cm (5' 10")
Guatemala (Maya people) 157.5 cm (5' 2")
Hong Kong 170 cm (5' 7")
Hungary, Debrecen 179.14 cm (5' 10.4")
Iceland 181.7 cm (5' 11.5")
India 165.3 cm (5' 5")
Indonesia 158.0 cm (5' 2.2")
Indonesia, East Bali 162.4 cm (5' 3.9")
Iran 174.24 cm (5' 8.6")
Iraq 165.4 cm (5' 5.1")
Israel 175.6 cm (5' 9.2")
Italy - Middle & North 176.9 cm (5' 9.7")
Italy - South 174.2 cm (5' 8.0")
Japan 171.2 cm (5' 7.4")
Korea, South 175.26 cm (5' 9")
Lithuania 176.3 cm (5' 9.4")
Malaysia 164.7 cm (5' 4.8")
Malta 169 cm (5' 6.5")
Malawi 166 cm (5' 5.3")
Mali 171.3 cm (5' 7.4")
Mexico, State of Morelos 167 cm (5' 5.7")
Netherlands 184.8 cm (6' 0.8")
New Zealand 177.0 cm (5' 9.7")
Nigeria 163.8 cm (5' 4.5")
Norway 179.9 cm (5' 10.8")
Philippines 163.5 cm (5' 4.4")
Portugal 172.8 cm (5' 8")
Singapore 170.6 cm (5' 7.2")
South Africa 169.0 cm (5' 6.5")
Spain 170 cm (5' 7")
Sweden 180 cm (5' 10.9")
Switzerland 175.5 cm (5' 9")
Taiwan 171.45 cm (5' 7.5")
Thailand 167.5 cm (5' 5.9")
Turkey 173.74 cm (5' 8.4")
United Kingdom 176.8 cm (5' 9.6")
U.S. 178.2 cm (5' 10.2")
Vietnam 167 cm
 
it depends who measures, i guess

country and average male height:

Argentina 174.46 cm (5 ft 8.6 in)
australia 178.4 cm (5' 10.2")
bahrain 165.1 cm (5' 5")
belgium 176.6 cm (5' 9.5")
brazil 169.0 cm (5' 6.5")
cameroon 170.6 cm (5' 7.2")
canada 174 cm (5' 8.5")
china (prc) 164.8 cm (5' 4.9")
china 169.4 cm (5' 6.7")
colombia 170.64 cm (5' 7.2")
côte d'ivoire 170.1 cm (5' 7")
czech republic 180.3 cm (5' 11")
denmark 180.6 cm (5' 11.1")
dinaric alps 185.6 cm (6' 1.0")
estonia 179.1 cm (5' 10.5")
finland 178.2 cm (5' 10")
france 174.1 cm (5' 8.5")
ghana 169.46 cm (5' 6.7")
gambia 168.0 cm (5' 6.1")
germany 178.1 cm (5' 10")
guatemala (maya people) 157.5 cm (5' 2")
hong kong 170 cm (5' 7")
hungary, debrecen 179.14 cm (5' 10.4")
iceland 181.7 cm (5' 11.5")
india 165.3 cm (5' 5")
indonesia 158.0 cm (5' 2.2")
indonesia, east bali 162.4 cm (5' 3.9")
iran 174.24 cm (5' 8.6")
iraq 165.4 cm (5' 5.1")
israel 175.6 cm (5' 9.2")
italy - middle & north 176.9 cm (5' 9.7")
italy - south 174.2 cm (5' 8.0")
japan 171.2 cm (5' 7.4")
korea, south 175.26 cm (5' 9")
lithuania 176.3 cm (5' 9.4")
malaysia 164.7 cm (5' 4.8")
malta 169 cm (5' 6.5")
malawi 166 cm (5' 5.3")
mali 171.3 cm (5' 7.4")
mexico, state of morelos 167 cm (5' 5.7")
netherlands 184.8 cm (6' 0.8")
new zealand 177.0 cm (5' 9.7")
nigeria 163.8 cm (5' 4.5")
norway 179.9 cm (5' 10.8")
philippines 163.5 cm (5' 4.4")
portugal 172.8 cm (5' 8")
singapore 170.6 cm (5' 7.2")
south africa 169.0 cm (5' 6.5")
spain 170 cm (5' 7")
sweden 180 cm (5' 10.9")
switzerland 175.5 cm (5' 9")
taiwan 171.45 cm (5' 7.5")
thailand 167.5 cm (5' 5.9")
turkey 173.74 cm (5' 8.4")
united kingdom 176.8 cm (5' 9.6")
u.s. 178.2 cm (5' 10.2")
vietnam 167 cm
source ....??
 
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No idea Wilhelm, they didn't say what year.
Good article Lynx, it makes sense.
I can't believe it's so hard to find recent statistics with cross population and age height or weight measurements. I think one would need to get to government stats for every country (in native language) sample them and pile up in one database.
I wounder if there is still grove increase since 80s till now, or it has stopped in Europe? If it stopped then it would mean that we have enough food in all countries to accommodate the full potential grove. If we still growing it could mean that we consume too much grove hormone in foods.
I remember a friend from high school in Poland. His parents were about 155cm mother and 165 father, short people by any standards. At age of 19 my friend was 190cm still growing and not much facial hair. I know this wasn't a disease, his alive now and healthy,..and stopped growing soon after. Well, his parents owned a chicken farm. Real mass production with grove hormone use. It was a long recession time in Poland and food was scares. Because they had this farm, easy food for them to get, my friend was eating chicken every second day. There wasn't much of regulation of hormone use back then.............then again, maybe one of his grandfathers was really tall. :)
 
No idea Wilhelm, they didn't say what year.
Good article Lynx, it makes sense.
I can't believe it's so hard to find recent statistics with cross population and age height or weight measurements. I think one would need to get to government stats for every country (in native language) sample them and pile up in one database.
I wounder if there is still grove increase since 80s till now, or it has stopped in Europe? If it stopped then it would mean that we have enough food in all countries to accommodate the full potential grove. If we still growing it could mean that we consume too much grove hormone in foods.
I remember a friend from high school in Poland. His parents were about 155cm mother and 165 father, short people by any standards. At age of 19 my friend was 190cm still growing and not much facial hair. I know this wasn't a disease, his alive now and healthy,..and stopped growing soon after. Well, his parents owned a chicken farm. Real mass production with grove hormone use. It was a long recession time in Poland and food was scares. Because they had this farm, easy food for them to get, my friend was eating chicken every second day. There wasn't much of regulation of hormone use back then.............then again, maybe one of his grandfathers was really tall. :)
WHat is the source of your list ?
 
From the Study of Lynx , Spain taller than Austria, Finland, Ireland

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It depends who measures, I guess
Country and average male height:
Argentina 174.46 cm (5 ft 8.6 in)
Australia 178.4 cm (5' 10.2")
Bahrain 165.1 cm (5' 5")
Belgium 176.6 cm (5' 9.5")
Brazil 169.0 cm (5' 6.5")
Cameroon 170.6 cm (5' 7.2")
Canada 174 cm (5' 8.5")
China (PRC) 164.8 cm (5' 4.9")
China 169.4 cm (5' 6.7")
Colombia 170.64 cm (5' 7.2")
Côte d'Ivoire 170.1 cm (5' 7")
Czech Republic 180.3 cm (5' 11")
Denmark 180.6 cm (5' 11.1")
Dinaric Alps 185.6 cm (6' 1.0")
Estonia 179.1 cm (5' 10.5")
Finland 178.2 cm (5' 10")
France 174.1 cm (5' 8.5")
Ghana 169.46 cm (5' 6.7")
Gambia 168.0 cm (5' 6.1")
Germany 178.1 cm (5' 10")
Guatemala (Maya people) 157.5 cm (5' 2")
Hong Kong 170 cm (5' 7")
Hungary, Debrecen 179.14 cm (5' 10.4")
Iceland 181.7 cm (5' 11.5")
India 165.3 cm (5' 5")
Indonesia 158.0 cm (5' 2.2")
Indonesia, East Bali 162.4 cm (5' 3.9")
Iran 174.24 cm (5' 8.6")
Iraq 165.4 cm (5' 5.1")
Israel 175.6 cm (5' 9.2")
Italy - Middle & North 176.9 cm (5' 9.7")
Italy - South 174.2 cm (5' 8.0")
Japan 171.2 cm (5' 7.4")
Korea, South 175.26 cm (5' 9")
Lithuania 176.3 cm (5' 9.4")
Malaysia 164.7 cm (5' 4.8")
Malta 169 cm (5' 6.5")
Malawi 166 cm (5' 5.3")
Mali 171.3 cm (5' 7.4")
Mexico, State of Morelos 167 cm (5' 5.7")
Netherlands 184.8 cm (6' 0.8")
New Zealand 177.0 cm (5' 9.7")
Nigeria 163.8 cm (5' 4.5")
Norway 179.9 cm (5' 10.8")
Philippines 163.5 cm (5' 4.4")
Portugal 172.8 cm (5' 8")
Singapore 170.6 cm (5' 7.2")
South Africa 169.0 cm (5' 6.5")
Spain 170 cm (5' 7")
Sweden 180 cm (5' 10.9")
Switzerland 175.5 cm (5' 9")
Taiwan 171.45 cm (5' 7.5")
Thailand 167.5 cm (5' 5.9")
Turkey 173.74 cm (5' 8.4")
United Kingdom 176.8 cm (5' 9.6")
U.S. 178.2 cm (5' 10.2")
Vietnam 167 cm

This table appears flawed.
 
Height is determined as much by diet and health care as genetics.
 
From the Study of Lynx , Spain taller than Austria, Finland, Ireland

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Even this good study relies on "reported height". Bad start... The figures don't go beyond 1980!

Anyway, there is no midget population in Europe. However, I would say that, based on the most recent information I've run across, the Dutch are he tallest.
 
Yes, the point was to prove wrong to Maltesekid that Iberians are shorter, darker, blah, blah, blah...You see Spain has an average height in Europe
 
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