J2b1-M205 introduced to Eupedia

Dema said:
Not really, if you can do BigY and upload results to Yfull is the best. That would be awesome
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Would be useful to take 37markers on ftdna?
 
Arnguth said:
Would be useful to take 37markers on ftdna?
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It would be interesting to see do you get any relatives on 37 markers, and are you Balkan cluster or some isolated line which is more likely. You can find out this on 37 markers. Also you can then join Italian project on FTDNA and try to find out more. So its always nice to do 37 markers if you haven't before.
 
mrdinar1 said:
Dema mine dna test on anesctery dna came today turns out I'm 85 percent balkan 11 percent eastern European and 4 percent Baltic in my opinion the Baltic and eastern Europe comes from grandmothers side she has Hungarian and Slovenian origins she is croatian
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Yes these autosomal tests have changed how they display results. Balkan category is mixed slavic + albanian + greek.
You wont be able to tell apart East from Southeast genetics. Try to upload your results to Gedmatch and find more that way.
Also autosomal changes with each generation so really it wont tell us a lot. But if i remember correctly most of J2-M205 Serbs had like 60% southeast genetics and 40 % East, meaning they were closer to Albanians then to Slavs. But testing companies mixed it all into one category now so its not easy to see difference.
 
Dema said:
Best way to study any haplogroup is to learn about all ancient samples found and also to analyze modern living population. I analysed all studies that were published where J2-M205 was found, also analyzed many studies where modern living population were tested searching for J2-M205 STRS marker's on Balkans, Italy, Greece, Middle East, and so on. Our oldest ancient DNA IS J2b* first Neolithic farmers from Zagros mountains. Looks like J2-M205 come down from Zagros mountains and conquest Fertile Crescent in Early Bronze Age together with J1 haplogroup and some other branches of J like some J2a's. Also it's connected with spread of Semitic language's. Since we have J2-M205 found in Sidon 1600 BCE that is ultimate proof that this line was one of original Phoenician lines. That is unquestionable since ancient DNA is most valuable proof you can have.
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Dema are you J2-M205 i wanna talk about the haplogroup if u want u can add me on discord
rum1993 is my user
 
Dema said:
absolutely no, that was a slight mistake by Serbian project to associate this haplogroup exclusively with Kriči tribe. But i dont blame them since they didnt know better before and there was very little information. Nebojša N. should know this since he is Y22063+ just as me and Kriči are negative to Y22063 meaning that both mine and his line have distance 1200 years from Kriči tribe and that we were definitely not part of Kriči tribe but rather some smaller side lines.

Yes all Balkan Slavs who carry this haplogroup were probably Albanian language speakers, they were assimilated into Illyrians since time of Imperial Rome. They become Slavs after Slavs conquered their native lands where they lived and therefore assimilated these lines.
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what tribe do u belong to
my mothers side is from lohja
 
Kastrati999 said:
what tribe do u belong to
my mothers side is from lohja
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We are anas from Kosovo, meaning old family prior to tribes. But we joined Berisha tribe, married with them, and so on... Because it was biggest tribe in our village. Lohja is entirely J2-M205. Very cool tribe. Sure ill add you on discord.
 
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