Sabro, thank you for your apologies. Mars Man, thank you for the private message.
MM, I will consider what you said, however, I am not going to jump on board because I am wondering how genuine the whole thing is. To me, it seems a little like just imploring me to give special consideration to Sabro, rather than for the benefit of the thread or the discussion.
For example, Sabro comes on and makes an apology and you feel a need to ?gthank him?h for the honesty of it. I made an apology about a week ago to Sabro about a quote, and hey -- no thanks for that honesty -- in fact that apology was questioned and Sabro even mocked it. So, why shouldn`t I mock his apology or refer to it derogatively? I won`t. But, it raises my eyebrow. It tells me that all you prior forum acquaintances, before my appearance, are interested in propping each other up even when someone clearly has done something wrong.
When I made the mistake and knocked Sabro`s quote out of context, Revenant, Tsuyoiko, and perhaps a few others were quick to jump on me. However, when Sabro knocked my forum handle there was no jumping on him for doing that. In fact, Mycernius ignores that and focuses on my paying pack in kind. It is just lopsided and to say you want me to hold back for the forum and thread makes me think it isn?ft for that reason, but wanting to give a little more cushion of respect to someone?fs sensitivity. I haven`t seen any application of equal ?grebuking?h (a favorite term of Sabro`s) so I assume that this overture is somewhat shallow.
Another thing that Sabro continues to do is to encourage flaming. He did it on the hunting thread, has done it in the Whale thread, and just thinks it endears him to others when he compliments ?grebukes?h when they are laced with direct salvos of words where people call someone ?glooney,?h or ?gHitler,?h etc...
I know he will respond to that again like he did in the past where he said he complimented a part of the post and therefore he technically did not encourage that part that was crude or overtly offensive. He is the one that soured the two of us on this forum so I see no reason to make the first step in starting on a better footing. In addition, I do not take kindly to Private Messages being forwarded to others, which he admitted he did. He still tries to defend that.
Now, those are my grievances with him and until all of you can give them equal consideration or Sabro can face up to those wrongs innitiated by him, I don`t really feel any need to go out of my way to dance around him with niceties since he was the one who innitiated the sour atmosphere. All you who feel it is better to stick up for a forum friend rather than what is equal, well, that is fine. I can handle that as well -- as what I am sure to be Sabro`s coming snide sidestepping of the points I have brought up.
Until honesty from all the regular visitors to the religion/philosophy forums becomes a two way street of egalitarian reciprocity, spreading criticism around equally where wrongs are committed and examined retroactively, then I will retain my style of brutal honesty with the witticism that some of you deplore and others find entertaining, lively and humorous.
I could easily change my style to ammend that, but that is not going to come from just a request, but from some honest postings about how people purposely piled on me when I may have been wrong, but at the same time, also held back in piling on Sabro when he was clearly wrong with his snide or inappropriate comments.