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torzio said:
thanks ............so MTA has all 3 samples ...I4331, I4332 and I3313 ?

what is i3313B then if not one of these?
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I’m processing I3313,
… unless they’re Twins, I3313 and I3313B are the same Ancient person.
 
... deep dive shows that I3313 and I3313B are the same person, though are distinct in Archaeogenetic Top Matches (# 1 and 2) … maybe a new reformatted data, a glitch, or a work in progress.

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I3313 Raw-Data:

Combined:
https://www.mediafire.com/file/3th0vv4bidmcri2/I3313_Combined.zip/file

AncestryDNA format:
https://www.mediafire.com/file/5pyqtgcmzyz2r4t/I3313_Ancestry_V2.zip/file

FTDNA format:
https://www.mediafire.com/file/snwg2s4kxtuqq4o/I3313_FTDNA_V2.zip/file
 
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Salento said:
... deep dive shows that I3313 and I3313B are the same person, though are distinct in Archaeogenetic Top Matches (# 1 and 2) … maybe a new reformatted data, a glitch, or a work in progress.
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Could you make a full list of all the GEDmatch kits you have for ancient samples? That would be very convenient and helpful, thanks in advance!
 
Er Monnezza said:
Could you make a full list of all the GEDmatch kits you have for ancient samples? That would be very convenient and helpful, thanks in advance!
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I don't have easy access to all my data right now, but here are the Romans:


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Salento said:
... deep dive shows that I3313 and I3313B are the same person, though are distinct in Archaeogenetic Top Matches (# 1 and 2) … maybe a new reformatted data, a glitch, or a work in progress.

s7Qfpds.png



vBhKuxt.jpg

DNG14rv.jpg


I3313 Raw-Data:

Combined:
https://www.mediafire.com/file/3th0vv4bidmcri2/I3313_Combined.zip/file

AncestryDNA format:
https://www.mediafire.com/file/5pyqtgcmzyz2r4t/I3313_Ancestry_V2.zip/file

FTDNA format:
https://www.mediafire.com/file/snwg2s4kxtuqq4o/I3313_FTDNA_V2.zip/file
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Also to me are displayed I3313 and I3313B:

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Duarte said:
Also to me are displayed I3313 and I3313B:

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…. they’re probably running two different file formats of the same sample.

I uploaded I3313, … I3313B showed up as a massive deep dive match, … could be the same person, a twin, or a close sibling, I Think.

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@Salento
I agree. :good_job:
I believe that I3313 and I3313B are the same individual and the difference between the two samples displayed on MTA must be an experiment of data imputation in I3313B, I don’t know.
 
ETR001
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Salento said:
ETR001
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Very cool, Salento.:good_job:
These short videos of MTA are nice too. In the case of the Gallo-Roman parade below, I got a flea behind my ear (a Brazilian expression to refer to something that is bothering you). Notice that the rightmost centurion in the video slaps the standard bearer on the waist to make him change direction and follow the correct path. These Gallo-Romans look like a troop that lost the war and is preparing the surrender to the enemy, lol.

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https://imgur.com/a/d7OQhwI

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Duarte said:
Very cool, Salento.:good_job:
These short videos of MTA are nice too. In the case of the Gallo-Roman parade below, I got a flea behind my ear (a Brazilian expression to refer to something that is bothering you). Notice that the rightmost centurion in the video slaps the standard bearer on the waist to make him change direction and follow the correct path. These Gallo-Romans look like a troop that lost the war and is preparing the surrender to the enemy, lol.

View attachment 12730

https://imgur.com/a/d7OQhwI
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:laughing: :good_job: … MTA is entertaining, … I also like the Deep Dive and the Chrome apps, … they should improve the Matching Samples and the Modern algorithms, … some of the names too :)
 
first time this appeared................using Ftdna data ................23andme data did not show this up

[h=6]Skeleton Lake Traveller - Hellenic[/h]I3403 (1805 AD)

[h=6]mtDNA Haplogroup: X2d[/h][h=6]Y-DNA Haplogroup: T1a2 (L131)[/h]
Genetic Distance: 21.441
Sample Match! 93% closer than other users
 
torzio said:
first time this appeared................using Ftdna data ................23andme data did not show this up

Skeleton Lake Traveller - Hellenic

I3403 (1805 AD)

mtDNA Haplogroup: X2d

Y-DNA Haplogroup: T1a2 (L131)


Genetic Distance: 21.441
Sample Match! 93% closer than other users
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with GedM…: got y and mt relatives on Skeleton Lake:

I3403 (y T1a2) - 9.8 cM - 5.5 Generations
I3404 (mt H12) - 7.1 cM - 7.5 Generations

I3403
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I3404
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EDIT: … on MTA:
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Salento said:
ETR001
9WzSwOI.jpg


EMCaPPU.jpg



DkVB6wu.jpg


KmAyJRF.jpg

3YdlAMc.gif
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This is more proof though, that this calculator is not reliable. ETR001 clusters with and is closest to Southern Italians/Sicilians; not Tuscans.

Here is the PCA from the study it is from:

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G25 also put them with Lazio, which I am sure is Northern Lazio.

Only Dodecad seems to get it right, and put them closest to Southern Italians, with Campania as the first population.
 
Jovialis said:
[TABLE="class: distances"]
[TR]
[TH="align: right"]Distance to:[/TH]
[TH="align: left"]ETR001[/TH]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #D9FF00, align: right"]6.38203729[/TD]
[TD]Italian_Campania[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #EFFF00, align: right"]7.03265242[/TD]
[TD]Italian_Abruzzo[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFFB00, align: right"]7.62693910[/TD]
[TD]Italian_Sicily[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFE100, align: right"]8.38596446[/TD]
[TD]Italian_Calabria[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFE100, align: right"]8.38833142[/TD]
[TD]Italian_Marche[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFB700, align: right"]9.60335879[/TD]
[TD]Italian_Lazio[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFAB00, align: right"]9.96289115[/TD]
[TD]Ashkenazi_Jews[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFAB00, align: right"]9.96578647[/TD]
[TD]Italian_Apulia[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF8900, align: right"]10.96518582[/TD]
[TD]Italian_Jews[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF8700, align: right"]11.02515760[/TD]
[TD]Moldovan_Jewish[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF8100, align: right"]11.19228752[/TD]
[TD]Greek_Lemnos[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF7F00, align: right"]11.26296586[/TD]
[TD]Italian_Romagna[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF7500, align: right"]11.56550474[/TD]
[TD]French_Corsica[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF5E00, align: right"]12.23690320[/TD]
[TD]Greek_Central[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF5C00, align: right"]12.30425130[/TD]
[TD]Greek_Fournoi[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF5A00, align: right"]12.35916664[/TD]
[TD]Greek_Athens[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF5900, align: right"]12.37459494[/TD]
[TD]Greek_Foca[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF5100, align: right"]12.60453490[/TD]
[TD]Greek_Izmir[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF4C00, align: right"]12.77140556[/TD]
[TD]Sephardic_Jews[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF3A00, align: right"]13.30770078[/TD]
[TD]Greek_Crete[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF3900, align: right"]13.32534052[/TD]
[TD]Italian_Tuscany[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF3900, align: right"]13.33030007[/TD]
[TD]Greek_Icaria[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF3400, align: right"]13.47303975[/TD]
[TD]Morocco_Jews[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF2100, align: right"]14.03145039[/TD]
[TD]Greek_Kos[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF1C00, align: right"]14.16424018[/TD]
[TD]Greek_Peloponnese
[/TD]
[/TR]
[/TABLE]

[TABLE="class: distances"]
[TR]
[TH="align: right"]Distance to:[/TH]
[TH="align: left"]ETR001[/TH]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #C3FF00, align: right"]5.72585365[/TD]
[TD]Imperial-age_Marche_(n=2)[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #DFFF00, align: right"]6.56417550[/TD]
[TD]6th-century_Piedmont_(Italians_only)_(n=7)[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFF000, align: right"]7.93676256[/TD]
[TD]Late_Antiquity_Latium_(n=24)[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFD000, align: right"]8.87417602[/TD]
[TD]Italian_Greeks_(n=2)[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFCE00, align: right"]8.93407522[/TD]
[TD]EMBA_Greece_(n=6)[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFA200, align: right"]10.23708455[/TD]
[TD]Early_Medieval_Latium_(n=5)[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFA000, align: right"]10.29304134[/TD]
[TD]Mycenaean_Greece_(n=4)[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF8F00, align: right"]10.80237474[/TD]
[TD]Medieval_Foggia_Apulia_(n=5)[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF5F00, align: right"]12.19273964[/TD]
[TD]Imperial-age_Latium_(East_Med_immigrants)_(n=46)[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF0003, align: right"]15.07897211[/TD]
[TD]Late_Medieval_Latium_(n=16)[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF0041, align: right"]16.92457976[/TD]
[TD]Bronze_Age_Sicily_(n=15)[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF004B, align: right"]17.19678749[/TD]
[TD]Early_Neolithic_Anatolia_(n=7)[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF0057, align: right"]17.57018497[/TD]
[TD]Etruscans_(n=3)[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF0058, align: right"]17.58842801[/TD]
[TD]Chalcolithic_Bulgaria_(n=9)[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF005D, align: right"]17.74870418[/TD]
[TD]Minoan_Greece_(n=10)[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF0061, align: right"]17.85048179[/TD]
[TD]Bronze_Age_Illyrians[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF006A, align: right"]18.12963044[/TD]
[TD]Early_Neolithic_Greece_(n=3)[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF006D, align: right"]18.21896265[/TD]
[TD]Early_Neolithic_Starcevo_culture_(n=8)[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF0088, align: right"]18.99202464[/TD]
[TD]Villanovans_(n=2)[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF009C, align: right"]19.58193300[/TD]
[TD]Medieval_Andalusia_(n=14)[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF00A9, align: right"]19.98121117[/TD]
[TD]Pre-Pottery_Neolithic_Anatolia_(n=8)[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF00AE, align: right"]20.12171464[/TD]
[TD]Middle_Bronze_Age_Anatolia_(n=2)[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF00D2, align: right"]21.18671046[/TD]
[TD]LN_Lengyel_culture_(n=8)[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FF00ED, align: right"]21.97552730[/TD]
[TD]Roman_&_Visigothic_Iberia_(n=31)[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FE00FF, align: right"]22.54377076[/TD]
[TD]Middle-Late_Bronze_Age_Hittites_(n=2)
[/TD]
[/TR]
[/TABLE]

[TABLE="class: distances"]
[TR]
[TH="align: right"]Distance to:[/TH]
[TH="align: left"]Jovialis[/TH]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="bgcolor: #FFEF00, align: right"]7.95983668[/TD]
[TD]ETR001
[/TD]
[/TR]
[/TABLE]
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Here are the results from the other thread.
 
From MTA results northern italians seem not to be of part gallic ancestry, they don't match in deep dive analysis with neolithic France samples or gallic chariot burials, instead the iberian people yes. I have matches with Frankish gauls, but I think these are due to a germanic signature from the middle age. What do you think about it?
 
Closest Archaeogenetic matches


Visigoth Mixed Slav Girona
550 AD - Genetic Distance: 10.77
Top 96 % match vs all users


Ancient Middle Helladic Elati-Logkas Greece
1861 BC - Genetic Distance: 13.05
Top 95 % match vs all users


Byzantine Roman Warrior
605 AD - Genetic Distance: 15.07
Top 95 % match vs all users


Central Roman
590 AD - Genetic Distance: 17.22
Top 90 % match vs all users


Early Bronze Age Mokrin Necropolis Serbia
1950 BC - Genetic Distance: 17.36
Top 79 % match vs all users


Medieval Hungary / Balkan
1244 AD - Genetic Distance: 18.99
Top 48 % match vs all users


Skeleton Lake


Skeleton Lake Traveller - Hellenic


mtDNA Haplogroup: H12
Y-DNA Haplogroup: E1b1b1b2 (PF1961/Z830)


Deep Dive Match! 10% closer than others who share this deep dive sample
Genetic Distance: 18.155
Sample Match! 91% closer than other users


Gelonian/Helonian Scythians


Scythian Moldova


mtDNA Haplogroup: U5b2a3
Y-DNA Haplogroup: R1b1a1a2 (BY15590)
Genetic Distance: 17.275
Sample Match! 72% closer than other users


Scythian Ukraine


mtDNA Haplogroup: N1b1a
Genetic Distance: 19.254
Sample Match! 79% closer than other users


Ancient relatives!


Frankish-Gallic Lombard Grave 590 AD
Shared DNA: (Sample Quality: 45)
5 SNP chains (min. 60 SNPs) / 33.12 cM
Largest chain: 161 SNPs / 9.7 cM


Closest Ancient populations:


Byzantine + Scythian (5.441)
Byzantine + Gaul (8.073)
Seleucid + Scythian (9.124)
Scythian + Roman (10.47)
Seleucid + Gaul (11.89)


Gaul (16.5)
Roman (17.22)
Scythian (17.27)
Byzantine (17.63)
Seleucid (19.35)


Closest genetic modern populations:


1. Macedonian (5.131)
2. Romanian (5.401)
3. Bulgarian (6.141)
4. Bosnian (8.136)
5. Serbian (9.071)
6. Albanian_Tosk (11.45)
7. Kosovar (11.66)
8. Greek_Thessaly (11.79)
 
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