New phylogenetic tree of R1b-U152 (and L2)

[Mory2]

My YDNA is R1b-L2-Z150-FGC5007. I am a Hazara man from Afghanistan.

 

[no_breakfast]

Hello! Is much known about the history of the subclade R-df103?

As far as I can tell, I am one of the downstream subclades (R-FGC8158/R-FGC8178). My oldest known paternal ancestor was a native of Saxony in the mid 1700's. Due to to his surname (Bledau/Blodau/Bludau) I have reason to suspect that there could be a connection to germanic settlers and/or teutonic knights during the baltic crusades, as the surname seems to be popular in Konigsberg around that time.

I'm also curious if there could be some connection to one of the Suebic tribes further back in time. I see that the other branch of R-df103 (R-FGC4166) has a lot if testers in the British Isles on FTDNA's website (perhaps a connection with the Angles?) and that there was also a 6th century longobard sample found in Hungary. Pure speculation, but I'm curious to learn what people think about this. Thanks!

 

[Robotnick]

Two Z193 and one Z192 (under CTS11874) have been found in Late Hallstatt Jura France samples. Also a Z193 in La Tene Bohemia.

 

[Robotnick]

Two Z193 and one Z192 (under CTS11874) have been found in Late Hallstatt Jura France samples. Also a Z193 in La Tene Bohemia.

Though I should note (just checked) that the one with Z192 is very much an Etruscan/Italic (or perhaps Rhaetian) in terms of admixture. May point to cross-alpine social/political/marital alliances.