LOL this thread has gotten funny. Hey, maybe all of the cyclic historical outbursts of violence and plundering by Northern Europeans against Western Europe have been triggered by a subconscious ancestral desire for revenge, from the I1 people?
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now,THATS funnyLet me apologize on behalf of my fellow hg. I brethren for not humbly lining up to be massacred like the unfortunate natives of both Australia and the Americas. We hg. I members should have realized early on that R1b was the ultimate gift to this planet; and we should have dutifully given our lives so that R1b members could thrive untethered and unhampered through their new European lands. And yes F.H., the fierce Celtic battle technique has been fully enhanced by your group's brilliant red hair and glowing alabaster skin. Your R1b ancestral freckles have served only to further highlight your tribes' stunning whiteness.Please remember, R1b has not only ushered the savage sport of golf to the forefront of mankind's psyche, you all have also introduced the hyper-masculine kilt for all to um, enjoy.Thank you again my trusty R1b leaders. We would be lost without your forceful guidance.
Degredado i think there is no doubt that Indo Europeans spread their language, culture,religion, and y dna by conquering because they were extremly agressive and had good weapons. It was the same story every time....
Hg I retaliates against Hg R1b
...........lets see if R1b can make a come back
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Mikewww, were you artfully trying to throw F.H. a life-line earlier in this thread? Me thinks so. Don't worry though because I like this kid and will take it relatively easy on him... HOWEVER if we are going to honestly assess the whole Nordic vs. Celtic slavery issue my R1b cousins may not appreciate the results. Especially when considering the last thousand/fifteen hundred years or so (ie. Ireland, Iceland, even England).
If this is what you are looking for you should join a band. As I mentioned earlier, I like sporting events. I played football in college and got a good dose of violence and energy in that... and some arthritic joints, but it was clearly a worthwhile experience. I think the band guys and gals would say the same.
No kidding;
Thats what i wrote a few months ago on a diff thread;
unproductive debate. Regions across Europe who either have a higher frequency of Hg I or a higher frequency of Hg R1b have pretty much the same share of merits concerning civilization and productivity. And its a debate that would span at least ~5000 years of History (with points in time where one region might have been more sophisticated than the other) and no culture or ethnicity was ever exclusively only part of one and the same Haplogroup to begin with.
Sometimes its hard to tell what's productive or not sometimes. Humour is good and sarcasm is also humour, but sometimes they can swamp a thread and distract it. I'm not sure what Eupedia's policies are on this stuff, but I would guess they have a "corner lounge" category or something where people can chit-chat or exchange cool videos or whatever.PS: i take my haplogroub wars upmost seriously (post#18) .... and i will never join a band;
Mikewww and Lebrok u know i exaggerated the conquering and warrior part of R1b L11-L51 Germanic Italo Celts. The reason is because that sounds alot cooler than talking about how they made beakers. ...
... i should not exaggerate i did a little....
I hear what your saying F.H. But realize that some groups may be even more savage than yours when pushed against a wall. Now I'm out of this thread, it should be returned to the initial idea.nordicquuarrler, i understand i include incredible warriors to the reason people groups become extinct to much. But with Indo Europeans that is how they spread their language by warfare.
When u look at history almost all major power changes are determined by the winner's in war. The only way to make someone do ur will is by forcing them to do it to a whole group of people the best way is by conquering. I think u underestimate how war is extremely important in how things turn out in history...
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