Chavlier you are from Iran,
the Problem is that religion can kill cultures,
Iran Is still under Priests command (Ayatollah or something like that spell) yet Iran is miles infront some neighbour countries,
in my country we also had such eras,
thing is why a movie can create such fondamentalism?
Just think such riots in Europe for a movie,
before some decades I lived a simmilar phenomena about a movie against Christian religion (a kazantzakis book) but never with killing people,
that is a good point to understand the limits of different culture and racism,
what I mean?
Who the Hell is that Imam of Al Azhar, Ahmed Al Tayep (maybe wrong spell) who wants the UN to pass an International Law that every one who insult Islam should punished?
What Era we Leave? even in Medieval times such laws did not Exist,
That is Cultural difference that creates Racism,
I am Polytheist, and sometimes I want to run in Nature Naked, but I don't, due to stupid Christians Laws, but closing my mouth is too much,
I saw it with my own eyes, thought to believe religion is root of all, but... question is... it is culture.
you see every culture have different interpretation of religion.
this is far beyond proven to me, I see it everyday.
these people, since past, had a "morbid" culture; emphasizing on sacrifice, self-pity, superfacial innocence and always playing "weak people" part instead of facing problems themselves and be "potent people".
shia, is one of two major sub religion of islam; it was first made, and still is used, as means to Arabs and Turks in west of country and to distinguish themselves politically.
no one really sure why revolution started, everything was fine, sure shah was evil to some degree, but no one revolutionized for this, a islamic government.
there were no real opposition from people back then because they were deeply religious themselves, also as well lacking education and being ignorant of history (to know what horrid things religious government just can condemn), politics (they lived and still live in modern era, and economy-supporting government is more essential than ever for our country -not necessary capitalism) and their own rights (freedom of speech, equality...people still being treated as horde, and like animals, despite SOME OF US have different views, have dreams, have desire to be productive in our OWN way, but who cares?...)
no matter even type of government comes, people are still the same...cultureless.
Aristotle was right, "every nation has government it deserves."
about movie, I watched it and impression was .... nothing!
I mean, how the hell muslims got so angry about such stupid movie??? I thought it was comedy?! I mean... did really a innocent person who isn't related to movie, just got killed for nothing?! ... I was so pissed, how could they riot on such stupid film? I mean by looking at it, it can force to believe Mohammad is like what movie says, because movie has hard time convincing, it humiliates itself!
also I really hate Germans for defending such pathetic film, call it "artistic"... how hypocrite! I lost faith in Germans!
I am truly sorry for death of a innocent person.
in Iran, no one neither rioted nor celebrated, had lived under opression of a islamic government already people got sick of these bullshits and not giving a damn about it... we struggle with increasing expenses and poor economy...we don't have time over some stupid film.
the riot itself was humiliating enough for muslims; they too humiliate themselves.
to be such insecure, that a movie can "
threats" the VERY FOUNDATION OF ISLAM>>>
OH MY GOD, ALLUH O AKBAR, DEATH ON ANY INFIDELS ... and such bullshits that I even laugh. XDDD
do they call themselves muslim? Islam is about peace and harmonious living with others.
Mohammad is a prophet who is holy enough to need no defense. he is filled with reverence yet these people act like there is something fishy about Islam. that needs to be defended or it's so pathetic and stupid religion that leaves no option for its believers other than this sort of action, rioting. no no no real Islam isn't just that!
it has lot to do with culture than religion itself...
Islamic culture, which isn't authentically prompted from Islam itself but rather interpretation they had about Islam every society and what they put their own customs on Islam.
it made people think certain ways, problem is people should modify their mindset.
no problem on wrong spelling, honestly I don't give a damn who the hell are they either...bunch of zealous freak who gave us bad name, why should I care about them?!
this is wrong, and no such laws should be allowed. they think they defend the faith but what they do is to destroying it.
since when in history of mankind, men didn't find themselves in need of a good critique.
I honestly tell you what all Muslims think and what Islam is to itself; it is most true and last religion of all. this is the reason for all recent acts. Islam was successor of Christianity, just as well Christ himself was to put an end to Jewish rules.
but they all just fantasize and actually don't care about means. Buddhism has attracted more people than Islam did (although it has same past brutal history just like all religions, today it is at its most peaceful state), and let's say they convert all to Islam... what good will it do if all they think is everything is right from beginning.
just like fall of catholic church in enlightenment age, Islam is dooming itself for not welcoming critiques, and I'm not talking this stupid movie, but something with philosophical and constructive approach.
Islam is ... really Arab-ilized, that when people think of Islam they think of Arabs. but it have different looks in various cultures of Asia, some like mine, Turkmens, have very peaceful state of religion, just praying, fasting and that's all, and we have religious celebration occasionally, like eid-e-fetr which is like your thanksgiving and eid-e-gorban which is like your Christmas.
since we all know religion is influenced by culture, authorities and most be flexible to needs of time, it is as criticiz-able as other human matters are.
even in Medieval times such laws did not Exist
... inquisition.
being muslim is not a problem, most religions (including islam) do not preach bad things... islam is in essence very similar to Christianity...
problem is that underdeveloped individuals will make primitive belief system of any religion or thought system...
the way that underdeveloped individuals see the world is in black and white division of type "us and them"... there are no indivduals fellow humans for a person whose mind is poisoned with group idolatry....racist or fanatics of any kind do not see individual people, they only see group (race, ideology, nation, religion) members and non group members...
when on 9/11 you see celebration in muslim countries, it is for them not at all about innocent individuals who are killed, it is about anti-group (in this case USA) who messes up with their group (in this case islamic countries) being punched back in the nose....
yes, problem is underdeveloped people. kick them out of the Europe before they all give us a bad name.
NOOOOO! we didn't celebrated! that's sick!
I want to ask Questions to all of you,
Do you accept with an International Law that forbids speaking against any religion?
How do you feel if the USA Ambassador got Killed by a Muslim in an European country riots?
How do you feel that one day your daughter must wear dresses that she does not want to, cause of a religious law in the city,
How do you feel if you can be accused of insulting a religion in an Academic discuss inside a lecture in a University?
-no, since everything is questionable, even religion.
-I feel truly sorry. though I think it's extremists work who took advantage of riot.
-I live under such laws; I truly feel sorry for our girls in country. beauty hidden, sexes distanced and ...total annoying from what I see in woman, I mean, man! to wear such annoying thing in summer?!
though scarf is okay, and if not forced. how lovely some women look imagine, in winter, in their cozy coat and cute little scarfs, treading through market, buying stuff for home.
-I will begin to feel HOW stupid authority IS! when something is wrong something is wrong. nothing is too sacred.
They are smiling.
LOL
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though the mom was smiling at her grand kid lol)
