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Doesn't look anything like the clay funeral masks.
One could say Southern Italians mostly resemble Minoans, which makes sense since they are modeled as most Minoan-like terms of autosomal DNA
It is a natufian skull from eynan
https://twitter.com/Sulkalmakh/status/1492151135062405125
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ʿAin_Mallaha
Wish i had a time machine to check
Either way it is a nice try
The clay funeral masks belong to ppnb period
Later in time
I'm quite aware. It's not, however, 100% Natufian people who moved into Anatolia and thence into Europe.
It's Neolithic people from the Levant, who didn't look anything like that.
So, once again, the point is a FAIL.
i know
i never claim southern italian have natufian ancestery
how do you think natufians and ppnb look like ?
the natufian reconstruction is based on his skull
Continental Greeks have a bit of Slavic admixture from middle ages, so they are a bit more shifted to Eastern/Central Europe than their Bronze/Iron age ancestors.Are Southern Italians more like Minoans than modern Greeks are?
Ah, yes, it's like the good old dna forums days. "Er Monezza", like Sickelliot of yore, appropriates the insights I provide for his own, i.e. the Piedmont sample more likely being mountain Liguria. If he were writing a paper, that would be plagiarism.
Italian_Piedmont,5.679,0.055,1.698,0.117,36.108,23.769,0.195,0.073,7.48,0.18,24.573,0.073
Distance to: Italian_Piedmont
[B][COLOR=#FF0000]1.98122588 Italian_Emilia
2.34366295 Italian_Liguria[/COLOR][/B]
2.46450320 Italian_Tuscany
4.29354818 Italian_Veneto
4.35161533 Italian_Piedmont
4.38744527 Italian_Romagna
4.50760868 Italian_Lombardy
6.21387287 Italian_Umbria
6.40459179 Italian_Friuli_VG
7.48775507 French_Corsica
7.73789739 Italian_Lazio
7.76009430 Swiss_Italian
7.88513589 Italian_Marche
8.23688873 Italian_Trentino
8.60051371 Albanian_Kosovo
9.07619502 Macedonian_Vardar
9.22713152 Macedonian_South
9.93298928 Greek_Thessaly
Italian_Piedmont,30.22,11.88,23.097,8.821,21.897,2.394,0.251,0.468,0.132,0.253,0.333,0.204,0.055
Distance to: Italian_Piedmont
[B][COLOR=#FF0000]1.77784786 Italian_Emilia
2.18321850 Italian_Liguria[/COLOR][/B]
3.52800836 Italian_Tuscany
5.05772508 Italian_Romagna
5.30205649 Italian_Lombardy
5.42756695 Italian_Veneto
6.05934015 Italian_Umbria
6.27287040 Italian_Piedmont
7.07910468 Italian_Friuli
7.10248992 Italian_Lazio
7.12985715 Italian_Marche
7.43742583 French_Provence_outlier
7.70292302 French_Corsica
8.75581767 Albanian_Catholic_Mirdite
8.95151624 Italian_Trentino
9.86714564 Swiss_Italian
9.94670111 Albanian_Kosovo
One might ask, what's the big deal then? The big deal is the virulent anti-Semitism of people like Davidski and his Slavophile Nazi followers on Eurogenes. His hatred of the Jews spreads to all Levantines, and he is desperate to wall off "his" part of Europe from the contagion, and limit it to Italy, perhaps Greece and other parts of Southern Europe. He is aided, bizarrely enough, by a Jewish (or part Jewish) poster, or so he claims, on anthrogenica who wants Italians to be part of the "tribe", or "wanna be" Jews, (a group not uncommon in the U.S., where Jews have a very high status for understandable reasons) followers of the sadly misinformed "Calabrian rabbi", or a sad young man who hates Jews because of his obsession with the Palestinian cause, and has targeted them at university, and for family reasons I will not describe, because even he is deserving of some consideration, even though he extends none to others, wants to find Jewish ancestry in Southern Italians.
^^I can't even say "Nice Try".
I pointed that out based on my knowledge of Italian history, the linguistics of the area etc. I didn't need to use calculators, although I did run the data in order to back it up.
When "I" said it, none of you clowns at anthrogenica had even given it a thought. As always, you guys appropriated "MY" knowledge and insight without a backward glance.
Oh, on another thread we're talking about the Etruscans. Did you and your buddies on anthrogenica and theapricity and all the other cesspits admit you were wrong yet? Oh, the frescos which I was told PROVED they were recently arrived Near Easterners, the linguistic analysis by the wanna be linguist etc. It went on and on. Who cared about the archaeology, the history etc. etc. Who needed to read the more than 1000 pages of the compendium on the Etruscans?
As I've said before, once a liar and thief, always a liar and thief.
Well... sorry to disappoint you, but no one gives a flying **** what you think or about your brilliant insights.
Rethinking about the minoritarian anatolian BA component, the fact that it's not evenly widespread could mean it's somewhat more recent: it could represent the signal of a medieval immigration from the Aegean (maybe following an Ottoman expansion), assuming that medieval Aegean could have a bit more Anatolian BA than the Iron and Bronze age Aegean...The Dodecad populations show even less on average, actually:
FYI The fit is better for the south, so the north needs something more.
Rethinking about the minoritarian anatolian BA component, the fact that it's not evenly widespread could mean it's somewhat more recent: it could represent the signal of a medieval immigration from the Aegean (maybe following an Ottoman expansion), assuming that medieval Aegean could have a bit more Anatolian BA than the Iron and Bronze age Aegean...
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