The Genomic History of the Bronze Age Southern Levant (Agranat-Tamir et al. 2020)

by the way i notice now when i looked
in supplemental table S:1
that one female from the baqah jordan
dated to late bronze age 1424-1288 BC
carry mtdna L0f2b
:cool2:

It's not a female but a male with the Y-DNA J1a2b.
 
Ok a male
Sorry 🤔
Regards
Adam


P.s
Even if he is a male that doesnt change
The fact that he carry subsharan mtdna
And it is cool to see it was present in bronze age remains from jordan 😉
 
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from the paper:
The two outliers from Megiddo (three including the sibling pair) provide additional evidence for the timing and origin of gene flow into the region. The three were found in close proximity to each other at Level K-10, which is radiocarbon dated to 1581–1545 BCE (domestic occupation) and 1578–1421 BCE (burials; both ± 1 s) (Martin et al., 2020
, Toffolo et al., 2014
), whereas the bone of one of the three (I10100) was directly dated (1688–1535 BCE, ± 2Σ). The reason these individuals are distinct from the rest is that their Caucasus- or Zagros-related genetic component is much higher, reflecting ongoing gene flow into the region from the northeast (Table S2; Figure S2B). The Neolithic Levant component is 22%–27% in I2200, and 9%–26% in I10100. These individuals are unlikely to be first generation migrants, as strontium isotope analysis on the two outlier siblings (I2189 and I2200) (Methods S1A) suggests that they were raised locally. This implies that the Megiddo outliers might be descendants of people who arrived in recent generations. Direct support for this hypothesis comes from the fact that in sensitive qpAdm modeling (including closely related sets of outgroups), the only working northeast source population for these two individuals is the contemporaneous Armenia_MLBA, whereas the earlier Iran_ChL and Armenia_EBA do not fit (Table S2). The addition of Iran_ChL to the set of outgroups does not change this result or cause model failure. Finally, no other Levantine group shows a similar admixture pattern (Table S2). This shows that some level of gene flow into the Levant took place during the later phases of the Bronze Age and suggests that the source of this gene flow was the Caucasus

About Megiddo it is good to mention it: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Biridiya Biridiya was the ruler of Megiddo in the 14th century BC. Biridiya authored five of the Amarna letters correspondence. He is also mentioned in the corpus from the city of 'Kumidu', the Kamid al lawz.

Survey of Ancient India, page 132: Iranian affinity is clear in Biridiya, for we have Bardiya, younger son of Cyrus; whatever the sense may be the d points to Old Persian affinities.

The Indian Historical Quarterly, Page 578: Of clear Iranian forms Mironov stresses Biridiya, on the score of the d corresponding to an original gh, distinctive of Persian.

You can read more about it in Origin of Vedas, by K S Krishnan:

4ox2_mitanni.jpg
 
Ok a male
Sorry ������
Regards
Adam


P.s
Even if he is a male that doesnt change
The fact that he carry subsharan mtdna
And it is cool to see it was present in bronze age remains from jordan ������


I didn't say anything about the African mtDNA, my correction referred to the gender of this individual. Hey, we have a woman from Central Asia in Bronze Age Levant this is even more surprising than a Levantine? carrying an African mtDNA. Keep in mind Egyptians and Nubians had lots of interactions with Canaan during the Bronze Age. Who knows? This guy could be also an Egyptian who resided in Baqah Jordan. Anyway, I'd love to see how this man looks like genetically speaking. There is a possible Israelite from Iron Age II.



 
Some eurogenes k13 values: (someone sent me) check this individual :)

Yehud_low_coverage:I7179,0.00,0.00,0.00,4.24,36.64,27.23,8.66,0.00,0.00,4.86,5.08,13.30,0.00

Yehud_low_coverage:I7180,0.00,0.00,11.82,14.35,45.75,25.19,0.00,0.32,0.00,0.80,1.78,0.00,0.00

Yehud:I7182,2.22,0.00,8.58,13.32,45.92,26.79,2.95,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.22,0.00

Yehud_low_coverage:I7184,0.00,4.04,17.72,8.08,49.63,17.84,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,2.69

Megiddo_MLBA_family4:I2189,0.70,19.49,8.37,27.31,32.32,8.63,2.27,0.00,0.65,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.26

Megiddo_MLBA:I2190,0.00,0.00,11.28,21.95,45.02,15.85,2.95,0.00,0.00,0.00,2.24,0.71,0.00

Megiddo_MLBA:I2195,0.00,0.00,12.44,20.84,50.21,12.99,1.04,0.00,0.72,0.00,0.00,1.75,0.00

Megiddo_MLBA:I2198,0.00,0.00,17.80,16.93,46.23,15.21,0.72,0.00,0.11,0.00,0.00,3.00,0.00

Megiddo_I2200:I2200,8.40,9.41,8.27,28.83,29.33,9.94,3.70,0.86,0.04,0.87,0.00,0.00,0.35

Abel:I2201,0.00,0.00,14.97,18.99,45.60,17.88,0.39,0.75,0.23,0.00,0.00,1.19,0.00

Hazor:I3965,0.00,0.00,13.47,22.39,46.49,14.50,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.83,1.07,1.25,0.00

Hazor:I3966,0.00,0.00,11.69,18.43,48.95,18.00,0.00,0.00,1.34,0.00,0.72,0.87,0.00

Megiddo_IA:I4517,3.11,0.00,12.06,17.85,44.82,19.37,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,1.33,1.47,0.00

Megiddo_MLBA:I4518,0.00,0.00,13.94,21.94,41.30,20.20,0.00,0.50,0.00,0.18,0.00,1.94,0.00

Megiddo_MLBA_family1:I4519,0.00,0.00,17.81,16.04,48.29,15.17,0.00,0.00,2.45,0.00,0.24,0.00,0.00
Megiddo_IBA:I4521,0.71,0.00,13.16,9.03,51.60,22.91,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,2.59,0.00

Megiddo_MLBA:I4525,0.00,0.00,15.03,17.19,47.53,18.82,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.69,0.15,0.58,0.00

Baqah_low_coverage:I6463,0.00,4.08,0.00,9.45,44.71,26.99,0.00,0.00,5.48,0.00,2.40,6.89,0.00

Baqah:I6565,0.00,0.00,8.85,18.80,47.87,21.13,0.10,0.00,0.00,0.00,2.12,1.13,0.00

Baqah_family6:I6461,0.00,0.00,15.02,16.65,49.41,17.29,0.00,0.20,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,1.43

Baqah:I6462,0.00,0.00,12.48,13.50,54.16,16.60,0.00,1.20,0.00,0.00,0.00,2.06,0.00

Baqah:I6464,0.00,0.00,11.07,11.73,56.71,19.39,0.00,1.11,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00

Baqah:I6564,0.82,0.00,10.73,16.99,48.39,20.69,0.66,0.00,0.00,0.41,0.00,1.31,0.00

Baqah:I6566,0.00,0.00,13.60,12.83,52.56,18.07,1.16,0.97,0.00,0.00,0.01,0.80,0.00

Baqah:I6567,0.00,0.00,14.87,17.12,46.91,19.80,0.00,0.07,0.00,0.00,0.75,0.48,0.00

Baqah:I6569,0.00,0.00,9.17,17.35,51.76,20.69,0.00,0.69,0.15,0.20,0.00,0.00,0.00

Baqah:I6570,0.00,0.00,13.81,15.89,49.11,18.94,0.00,0.72,0.00,0.00,0.49,1.03,0.00

Baqah:I6571,0.00,0.00,13.91,15.38,47.74,20.68,0.00,0.28,0.00,1.14,0.00,0.87,0.00

Baqah:I6572,0.00,0.00,14.59,15.58,46.47,20.67,0.71,0.74,0.00,0.52,0.20,0.51,0.00

Baqah:I6459,0.00,0.00,16.37,16.59,47.79,16.02,0.99,0.63,0.00,0.00,0.61,1.00,0.00

Baqah:I6460,0.00,0.00,12.18,17.88,47.33,19.63,0.00,2.51,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.47,0.00

Baqah:I3707,0.00,0.00,14.34,11.49,51.10,20.71,0.00,0.53,0.00,0.00,0.57,1.25,0.00

Baqah:I3985,0.00,0.00,12.46,11.98,55.73,17.72,0.00,0.00,0.00,1.53,0.00,0.59,0.00

Baqah:I3986,0.00,0.00,12.34,17.88,51.21,16.97,0.00,0.00,0.74,0.00,0.43,0.43,0.00

Baqah:I3987,0.00,0.00,9.84,16.93,51.46,18.98,0.22,1.42,0.05,0.47,0.45,0.18,0.00

Baqah:I3705,0.00,0.00,15.45,13.59,48.96,19.43,0.00,1.09,0.00,0.00,0.02,1.46,0.00

Baqah:I3706,0.00,1.23,13.83,16.41,50.95,15.40,1.09,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.53,0.57,0.00

Hazor:I3832,0.00,0.00,14.49,10.75,52.04,21.46,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,1.26,0.00

Baqah:I3703,0.00,0.00,13.29,18.35,52.13,14.65,0.00,1.13,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.45,0.00

Yehud_low_coverage:I6932,0.00,0.00,14.84,0.00,51.67,30.74,1.79,0.78,0.18,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00

Yehud_low_coverage:I6925,0.00,0.00,3.17,17.73,41.32,37.79,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00

Yehud_low_coverage:I6924,0.00,3.15,4.27,17.58,38.33,32.37,0.00,0.00,0.00,3.73,0.57,0.00,0.00

Yehud_low_coverage:I6928,0.00,0.00,21.96,6.04,45.14,23.96,0.00,0.00,0.00,1.44,0.00,1.46,0.00

Yehud_low_coverage:I7002,0.00,1.98,11.04,13.84,45.84,25.54,0.00,1.72,0.00,0.00,0.06,0.00,0.00

Yehud_low_coverage:I6922,0.00,0.00,15.10,11.26,47.02,19.44,0.62,0.00,0.11,6.44,0.00,0.00,0.00

Yehud:I6923,0.00,0.00,16.34,10.29,44.23,29.02,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.11,0.00,0.00,0.00

Yehud:I7003,0.00,0.00,17.85,5.17,51.81,21.88,3.01,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.28,0.00

Megiddo_MLBA:I10092,1.34,0.00,11.99,12.57,48.31,22.85,0.00,1.75,0.00,0.00,0.70,0.48,0.00

Megiddo_MLBA:I10093,0.42,0.00,11.26,13.21,48.41,22.87,0.27,0.90,0.00,0.00,0.24,2.42,0.00

Megiddo_MLBA_low_coverage:I10096,1.78,1.05,0.00,27.52,40.55,29.10,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00

Megiddo_MLBA:I10097,0.00,0.00,13.64,15.91,51.44,17.39,0.00,0.26,0.00,0.00,0.30,1.07,0.00

Megiddo_MLBA:I10099,3.04,0.00,8.09,20.51,48.38,17.57,0.00,0.91,0.00,0.00,0.00,1.50,0.00

Megiddo_I10100:I10100,15.48,10.19,2.79,28.89,21.57,9.40,5.25,0.00,0.00,3.10,3.33,0.00,0.00

Megiddo_MLBA_family3:I10101,4.91,0.00,15.18,10.69,50.11,15.79,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,3.32,0.00,0.00

Megiddo_MLBA:I10104,0.00,0.00,6.17,8.26,60.32,22.17,2.03,0.00,0.00,1.06,0.00,0.00,0.00

Megiddo_MLBA:I10106,0.00,0.00,8.56,17.54,51.27,20.76,0.00,0.97,0.00,0.00,0.90,0.00,0.00

Megiddo_MLBA:I10263,0.00,2.82,4.54,17.63,49.61,21.15,0.00,0.00,2.43,0.00,0.32,1.51,0.00

Megiddo_MLBA:I10264,0.00,0.00,9.51,20.42,46.80,19.51,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,1.92,1.84,0.00

Megiddo_MLBA:I10265,0.00,0.00,7.39,15.37,58.91,13.04,0.00,5.03,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.26,0.00

Megiddo_MLBA:I10266,0.00,0.00,18.34,22.48,46.48,11.75,0.00,0.00,0.20,0.75,0.00,0.00,0.00

Megiddo_MLBA_low_coverage:I10267,0.00,0.00,1.97,2.58,55.74,30.67,4.61,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,4.43

Megiddo_MLBA:I10268,0.00,0.00,15.91,15.58,48.48,17.38,0.00,0.25,0.67,0.10,0.72,0.91,0.00

Megiddo_MLBA_low_coverage:I10269,4.46,0.00,21.98,23.15,6.09,15.05,28.45,0.00,0.00,0.82,0.00,0.00,0.00

Megiddo_MLBA_family3:I10270,0.00,0.00,12.94,16.43,47.27,18.69,2.20,0.00,0.00,0.00,2.46,0.00,0.00
Megiddo_MLBA:I10359,0.00,0.00,6.04,26.93,44.42,18.88,0.00,1.74,1.32,0.00,0.58,0.09,0.00

Megiddo_MLBA_family3:I10361,0.00,0.00,25.27,0.00,51.89,16.42,6.42,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00

Yehud_low_coverage:I7177,0.00,0.00,8.14,0.00,68.88,22.97,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00

Megiddo_MLBA:I8187,0.00,0.00,12.71,11.93,53.43,20.04,0.00,0.39,0.00,0.31,0.00,1.19,0.00

Megiddo_MLBA_family2:I8188,0.00,0.00,15.19,11.96,53.40,15.71,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.33,3.41,0.00

Megiddo_MLBA:S10771.E1.L1,0.00,0.00,14.17,19.63,47.68,16.45,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,2.07,0.00

Megiddo_MLBA:S10769.E1.L1,0.00,0.00,9.67,20.98,49.60,17.44,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,1.65,0.67,0.00

Megiddo_MLBA:S10770.E1.L1,0.00,0.00,7.03,21.05,51.01,16.56,1.42,0.02,0.81,0.00,1.62,0.49,0.00

Megiddo_MLBA:S10768.E1.L1,2.40,0.00,12.69,15.32,49.55,17.90,0.76,0.00,0.00,0.00,1.39,0.00,0.00
 
^^I ran Megiddo Iron Age just for the heck of it.

Just parenthetically, I honestly have to pinch myself; I am looking at the genetics of the people of Megiddo and Hazor, those almost mythical places I read about so often. :) I'm sure you've read scripture, but did you ever read "The Source" by Michener? He must have had genius researchers or some professors helping him out, because it's amazing how much he got right as a non-archaeologist.

Looks like perhaps some significant gene flow from tribal Arabs going north during the invasion period might have occurred? So, maybe all that stuff wasn't propaganda after all. Of course, the Jews are far different too.

Target: IronAgeMegiddoI4517
Distance: 1.9161% / 1.91607142
46.2Lebanese_Christian
30.2Saudi
6.6Lebanese_Druze
5.4Yemenite_Jewish
5.2Laz
5.0Sephardic_Jewish
0.8French_Basque
0.6Papuan


Distance to:IronAgeMegiddoI4517
5.83624023Palestinian
7.47651657Samaritan
8.87532535Jordanian
8.90790660Lebanese_Christian
10.17634512Bedouin
10.71843272Syrian
11.74845522Lebanese_Druze
11.94831787Lebanese_Muslim
13.56100660Nusayri
14.99159098Cyprian
14.99159098Greek_Cypriot
16.15976176Turk_Cypriot
16.42481050Tunisian_Jewish
16.46080496Kurdish_Jewish
16.59787035Egyptian
16.71634529Libyan_Jewish
17.12021320Iranian_Jewish
18.52263210Saudi
18.55920526Yemenite_Jewish
19.46903182Assyrian
20.45469139Sephardic_Jewish
20.89022559Greek_Dodecanese
21.01150161Greek_Cappadocian
21.88697329Algerian_Jewish
22.08385609Italian_Jewish
 
Zionists not going to like it ...🤔
Megido iron age cluster with palestinians😎
 
I don't remember which book I read it in but the book made the case that the Israelites were actually coastal people from Northern Saudi Arabia that went north through the desert to what is now Israel. It had convincing arguments, I just wish I remember what they were. I do remember telling my wife that I couldn't wait to tell our Jewish friends that they were Saudis after all.
 
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Source: some points raised by smart person From other forum😉
Taken from paper: 👍
Area H in the north: buildings (and burials) immediately to the west of the Middle Bronze III-Late Bronze palaces of Megiddo
Level H-15, Late Bronze I.
The sampled burial, with two individuals (I10769 and I10770), was found above the monumental tomb of Level H-16; those who dug it were probably aware of this association.
The two Megiddo individuals with the next lowest Neolithic Levant component (I10769 and I10770, brothers) were found near the monumental tomb that was likely related to the palace at Megiddo, raising the possibility that they might be associated with the ruling caste. Indeed, a ruler of Taanach (a town located immediately to the south of Megiddo) mentioned in a 15th century BCE cuneiform tablet found at the site and the rulers of Megiddo and Taanach mentioned in the 14th century BCE Amarna letters (found in Egypt) carry Hurrian names (a language spoken in the northeast of the ancient Near East, possibly including the Caucasus) (Na’aman, 1994b). This provides some evidence—albeit so far only suggestive—that at least some of the ruling groups in these (and other) cities might have originated from the northeast of the ancient Near East.

P.s
Those are the 2 e-m34 brothers from tel-megido
I personally think they were probably just regular cannanites
but my mind open to a hurrian origin...
🤔
 
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The two outliers from Megiddo (three including the sibling pair) provide additional evidence for the timing and origin of gene flow into the region. The three were found in close proximity to each other at Level K-10, which is radiocarbon dated to 1581–1545 BCE (domestic occupation) and 1578–1421 BCE (burials; both ± 1 s) (Martin et al., 2020

The Coming of the Greeks: Indo-European Conquests in the Aegean and the Near East, page 60:

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I don't remember which book I read it in but the book made the case that the Israelites were actually coastal people from Northern Saudi Arabia that went north through the desert to what is now Israel. It had convincing arguments, I just wish I remember what they were. I do remember telling my wife that I couldn't wait to tell our Jewish friends that they were Saudis after all.


You have to interpret the data with caution. These Iron Age people from Meggido could be Phoenicians too and not necessarily Israelites. However, Arabs themselves appear to be originating in the Levant rather than in the Arab peninsular. Someone on anthrogenica noted that Meggido burns around the transition to the Iron age, but he thinks that a single sample during the IA that is also YDNA J1 as expected, demonstrates continuity. In my opinion, there was some kind of invasion there.

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So when going by the Meggido Iron Age folks, these Arab Bedouins from the Negev desert and Jordan with their classical ethnic Arab look represent ancient people from Israel.
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This Bedouin man from Jordan.
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^^I'm skeptical of that.

Leaving aside that physical appearance is not always a perfect match with what the genetics might predict, they don't look like Samaritans to me at all, a people with much less chiseled features, who at least practised Judaism, and some of whose members look quite Sephardic, at least, and I don't think you could find a more inbred population.

The man in the video looks as if he has quite a bit of SSA as well, which doesn't surprise me with some Saudis given the amount of East African mtDna in them, but I don't think we can assume similar levels were in the Iron Age Jews.

If I had to guess I think Iron Age Jews might have been quite Canaanite like, perhaps like more "southern" Lebanese Christians.

I'm not sure, but I think we agree that there was a back migration, if you will, from the Saudi peninsula and perhaps from Egypt up to the southern Levant with the expanse of Islam, and their input went into the Palestinians and Jordanians and perhaps a slightly different group into Iraq. We know from contemporaneous documents of Arab tribal movement north. The Lebanese held on to their religion and so perhaps didn't admix as much with them.

I also agree it's not a good idea to overinterpret one sample from Iron Age Megiddo. Anyone who didn't know it before should know now that the Bronze and Iron Age Near East was a very "cosmopolitan" place. It pays to remember scripture. Lots of mentions of people from other parts of the world in what Christians call the Old Testament. There's Ruth from Moab, one of David's ancestors, or Uriah the Hittite,whom David sent to his death to hide his affair with Bathsheba, Delilah the Philistine, Esther and the Persian king Xerxes I and on and on. Whatever the literal truth of the Bible stories, there was oral memory of a hell of a lot of admixture.
 
^^I'm skeptical of that.

Leaving aside that physical appearance is not always a perfect match with what the genetics might predict, they don't look like Samaritans to me at all, a people with much less chiseled features, who at least practised Judaism, and some of whose members look quite Sephardic, at least, and I don't think you could find a more inbred population.

The man in the video looks as if he has quite a bit of SSA as well, which doesn't surprise me with some Saudis given the amount of East African mtDna in them, but I don't think we can assume similar levels were in the Iron Age Jews.

If I had to guess I think Iron Age Jews might have been quite Canaanite like, perhaps like more "southern" Lebanese Christians.

I'm not sure, but I think we agree that there was a back migration, if you will, from the Saudi peninsula and perhaps from Egypt up to the southern Levant with the expanse of Islam, and their input went into the Palestinians and Jordanians and perhaps a slightly different group into Iraq. We know from contemporaneous documents of Arab tribal movement north. The Lebanese held on to their religion and so perhaps didn't admix as much with them.

I also agree it's not a good idea to overinterpret one sample from Iron Age Megiddo. Anyone who didn't know it before should know now that the Bronze and Iron Age Near East was a very "cosmopolitan" place. It pays to remember scripture. Lots of mentions of people from other parts of the world in what Christians call the Old Testament. There's Ruth from Moab, one of David's ancestors, or Uriah the Hittite,whom David sent to his death to hide his affair with Bathsheba, Delilah the Philistine, Esther and the Persian king Xerxes I and on and on. Whatever the literal truth of the Bible stories, there was oral memory of a hell of a lot of admixture.

There is a reference in the Book of Isaiah to Tayma or Tema, where the descendants of Ishmael’s son, Tema lived.
 
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There is a reverence in the Book of Isaiah to Tayma or Tema, where the descendants of Ishmael’s son, Tema lived.

God promised to make of his descendants a great nation, and the Old Testament mentions that by his twelve sons with an Egyptian wife his descendants were numerous, but they were separate from the children of Isaac.

It always seemed unfair to me, but then I find a lot of the Old Testament unfair at the least and quite often disturbing. The choosing of Hagar as a "surrogate mother" was all Sarah's idea, and sanctioned by custom, but Hagar's behavior led to jealousy on the part of Sarah, and Ismael and his mother were cast out. It works well as a symbolic tale to explain the similarities between the two peoples but yet the enmity between them as well, which is what it was doubtless meant to do.
 
i am not religious
but i am not going to lie
it feel pretty cool :cool-v:
to carry y haplogroup that was present among those Canaanite remains :)
and it show continue in the paternal y haplogroup of jews contrary
to the total autosomal picture where we cluster with modern siiclians and greek islanders
(and even if i put those samples in eurogenes k13 ancient tool in vahaduo my shortest distance /cluster
is with late antiquity romans )
 
i am not religious
but i am not going to lie
it feel pretty cool :cool-v:
to carry y haplogroup that was present among those Canaanite remains :)
and it show continue in the paternal y haplogroup of jews contrary
to the total autosomal picture where we cluster with modern siiclians and greek islanders
(and even if i put those samples in eurogenes k13 ancient tool in vahaduo my shortest distance /cluster
is with late antiquity romans )


Wow that's cool! I would like to find my Y-Haplogroup in one early Iranian too :).
 
Wow that's cool! I would like to find my Y-Haplogroup in one early Iranian too :).

you should check
anthrogenica
some users there run the snp calls of those ancient :unsure:
i am pretty sure your haplogroup was found in ancient remains somewhere :cool-v:
r1b is extremely common haplogroup :)
 
^^I ran Megiddo Iron Age just for the heck of it.

Just parenthetically, I honestly have to pinch myself; I am looking at the genetics of the people of Megiddo and Hazor, those almost mythical places I read about so often. :) I'm sure you've read scripture, but did you ever read "The Source" by Michener? He must have had genius researchers or some professors helping him out, because it's amazing how much he got right as a non-archaeologist.

Looks like perhaps some significant gene flow from tribal Arabs going north during the invasion period might have occurred? So, maybe all that stuff wasn't propaganda after all. Of course, the Jews are far different too.

Target: IronAgeMegiddoI4517
Distance: 1.9161% / 1.91607142
46.2Lebanese_Christian
30.2Saudi
6.6Lebanese_Druze
5.4Yemenite_Jewish
5.2Laz
5.0Sephardic_Jewish
0.8French_Basque
0.6Papuan


Distance to:IronAgeMegiddoI4517
5.83624023Palestinian
7.47651657Samaritan
8.87532535Jordanian
8.90790660Lebanese_Christian
10.17634512Bedouin
10.71843272Syrian
11.74845522Lebanese_Druze
11.94831787Lebanese_Muslim
13.56100660Nusayri
14.99159098Cyprian
14.99159098Greek_Cypriot
16.15976176Turk_Cypriot
16.42481050Tunisian_Jewish
16.46080496Kurdish_Jewish
16.59787035Egyptian
16.71634529Libyan_Jewish
17.12021320Iranian_Jewish
18.52263210Saudi
18.55920526Yemenite_Jewish
19.46903182Assyrian
20.45469139Sephardic_Jewish
20.89022559Greek_Dodecanese
21.01150161Greek_Cappadocian
21.88697329Algerian_Jewish
22.08385609Italian_Jewish


Hi Angela, could you also you run this Iron Age 14517 Megiddo sample on G25? I'd like to see how his Natufian compenent looks and what other Component he has? Peninsular Arabs score very high Natufian and relatively small Anatolian on G25.
 
Hi Angela, could you also you run this Iron Age 14517 Megiddo sample on G25? I'd like to see how his Natufian compenent looks and what other Component he has? Peninsular Arabs score very high Natufian and relatively small Anatolian on G25.

Sorry, I never bought the G25 coordinates, so I can't use it.

Perhaps someone else on the Board can run it for you. I'd be interested in the results.
 

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