Where do Medieval Italian samples from Antonio et al. 2019 come from?

Until mta releases a white paper completely laying bare their "patented" algorithm, I'll reserve judgment.

For everyone's information, Dienekes dumped all the data for his calculator ten years ago. That's one of the reasons I trust it; he always practised complete transparency. It's also, of course, why there are so many copies around.

It's also true that for the years he was active, I never caught him in a lie. You might disagree here and there but the analysis was honest, and I'm the most skeptical person you can imagine.
 
You did well. Stick with G25, it's more accurate. Gedmatch calculators like Dodecad k12b are outdated, they assign percentages and components without context.

IMO, whole genome sequencing + combination of IBD sharing will be the future of genealogical genetics.

G25 has been shown to falsely model ancient samples, when using ultimate source populations in relation to the southern Arc paper. What basis can you provide that "it is more accurate"?

While Dodecad is also not optimal for modeling ultimate source populations, it is indeed an effective tool for comparing modern populations, and aDNA that falls within the range of modern genetic continuum. Even if it is 10 years old, new does not always mean better. That is an appeal to novelty fallacy argumentum ad novitatem.
 
Distance to:C6:Medieval_Mediterranean:R973_Tivoli_Palazzo_Cianti
1.73254149Apulia:pu45
1.88925911Apulia:cera2
1.90735419Apulia:ALP583
2.13323698Apulia:puG58_Martano_LE_Apulia
2.54458248Campania:NaN238DM


Distance to:C6:Medieval_Mediterranean:R970_Tivoli_Palazzo_Cianti
3.51796816Apulia::puG74_Zollino_LE_Apulia
4.81255649Abruzzo:Alp140
4.82554660Apulia:cera1
5.02570393Umbria:pG06
5.04448213Latium:VT035_Bolsena_VT_Northern_Latium


Distance to:C6:Medieval_Mediterranean:R969_Tivoli_Palazzo_Cianti
1.79050272Marche:MarACO100D
2.32198191Abruzzo:ALP161
2.44311277ITS:ITS5
2.78680821Molise:pG27
2.82345533Molise:pG26_Molise


Distance to:C6:Medieval_Mediterranean:R65_Villa_Magna
1.81342218Basilicata:pG25
2.06397674Apulia:pu7
2.26141549Campania:NaN128LA
2.34503731Basilicata:pG20
2.34814821Apulia:puG58_Martano_LE_Apulia


Distance to:C6:Medieval_Mediterranean:R64_Villa_Magna
2.73662201ITS:ITS2
2.83790416Sicily:W-Sicily:5a
2.83790416Sicily:W-Sicily:5a
3.45208633Abruzzo:Alp503
3.46287453Campania:NaN293SF


Distance to:C6:Medieval_Mediterranean:R60_Villa_Magna
3.06066986Abruzzo:Alp140
3.10943725Basilicata:pG21
3.13847097Marche:MarABY030D
3.95698117Abruzzo:ALP161
4.09664497Apulia::puG74_Zollino_LE_Apulia


Distance to:C6:Medieval_Mediterranean:R59_Villa_Magna
2.68985130Apulia:ALP379
2.73181259Abruzzo:ALP205
3.07478455Basilicata:pG19
3.14485294Apulia:GS47
3.19050153Campania:NaN43TC


Distance to:C6:Medieval_Mediterranean:R58_Villa_Magna
1.95397032Abruzzo:ALP205
2.25151060Apulia:GS47
2.57252794Campania:NaN129RT_Portici_NA_Campania
2.65700960Basilicata:pG20
2.99008361Basilicata:pG25


Distance to:C6:Medieval_Mediterranean:R57_Villa_Magna
1.66937114Abruzzo:ALP205
1.71067238Campania:NaN289RM
1.81218101Basilicata:pG25
1.85922027Apulia:ALP379
1.88345427Apulia:puG37_Soleto_LE_Apulia


Distance to:C6:Medieval_Mediterranean:R56_Villa_Magna
1.95882618Apulia:puG58_Martano_LE_Apulia
2.03612377Campania:NaN128LA
2.10983412Campania:NaN43TC
2.26808289Campania:NaN212CR
2.37602609Sicily:Ag-Sicily:5


Distance to:C6:Medieval_Mediterranean:R54_Villa_Magna
2.10430511ITS:ITS2
2.43737564Apulia:puG37_Soleto_LE_Apulia
2.59262415Abruzzo:Alp616
2.97223821Basilicata:pG18
2.97370140Molise:pG26_Molise


Distance to:C6:Medieval_Mediterranean:R53_Villa_Magna
1.54712637Apulia:pu7
2.12442934Apulia:puG28_Martano_LE_Apulia
2.14811545Piedmont_o:ItalyPiedmont52
2.48975902Basilicata:pG16
2.69814751Campania:NaN77FAM


Distance to:C6:Medieval_Mediterranean:R52_Villa_Magna
3.21235116Campania:NaN212CR
3.37253614Latium:NOR28
3.46594864Apulia:puG17_Soleto_LE_Apulia
3.54269671Abruzzo:Alp380
3.68176588Campania:NaN43TC


Distance to:C6:Medieval_Mediterranean:R1290_Villa_Magna
1.78042130Campania:NaN238DM
2.21366212Campania:NaN212CR
2.40659511Molise:pG27
2.65124499Basilicata:pG19
2.70627050Molise:pG26_Molise


Distance to:C6:Medieval_Mediterranean:R1287_Cancelleria
2.68747093Tuscany:TSI_NA20787_SG
3.15582002Corsica:CorsicaS29908
3.23473337Tuscany:TSI_NA20529_SG
3.25851193Corsica:Corsica03708
3.42490876Tuscany:TSI_NA20800_SG


Distance to:C6:Medieval_Mediterranean:R1285_Cancelleria
2.92849791Tuscany:TSI_NA20588_SG
2.98464403Tuscan_HGDP:HGDP01169
3.15456812Tuscany:TSI_NA20800_SG
3.44833293Corsica:corsica29008
3.52309523Corsica:CorsicaS03308


Distance to:C6:Medieval_Mediterranean:R1283_Cancelleria
1.85178292Latium:pG28
2.37646797Umbria:pG723_Perugia_Montegrillo_PG_Umbria
2.45615553Tuscany:TSI_NA20786_SG
2.48781028Tuscany:TSI_NA20797_SG
2.52774603Tuscany:TSI_NA20800_SG


Distance to:C7:Medieval_European:R63_Villa_Magna
5.73128258Corsica_o:CorsicaS00708
9.25450701Veneto:ALP108_Treviso_TV_Veneto
9.45739922N_Italy_HGDP:HGDP01173
9.53348834Veneto:Alp100
9.54760179N_Italy_HGDP:HGDP01154


Distance to:C7:Medieval_European:R62_Villa_Magna
3.52069595Corsica_o:CorsicaS13308
8.62252863Friuli-Venezia-Giulia:ALP220
9.61998441Trentino-Alto-Adige:ALP071
9.76914531Aosta-Valley:ALP227_Aosta-Valley
10.45639517Friuli-Venezia-Giulia:ALP435


Distance to:C7:Medieval_European:R61_Villa_Magna
4.29429855Friuli-Venezia-Giulia:KF1803129
5.08734705Friuli-Venezia-Giulia:ALP081
5.11820281Veneto:ALP250
5.15351336Trentino-Alto-Adige:ALP071
5.48678412Friuli-Venezia-Giulia:KF1800761


Distance to:C7:Medieval_European:R55_Villa_Magna
1.45340978Veneto:ALP022
2.22946182Trentino-Alto-Adige:ALP200
2.65388395Veneto:KF1803109
2.86975609Lombardy:ALP288
2.92085604Piedmont:ALP277_Domodossola_VB_Piedmont


Distance to:C7:Medieval_European:R1289_Cancelleria
6.79966911Corsica_o:CorsicaS00708
10.13478663N_Italy_HGDP:HGDP01171
10.16738413N_Italy_HGDP:HGDP01153
10.45593133N_Italy_HGDP:HGDP01173
11.09651297Veneto:ALP108_Treviso_TV_Veneto


Distance to:C7:Medieval_European:R1288_Cancelleria
5.36274184Corsica_o:CorsicaS13308
10.60990575Friuli-Venezia-Giulia:ALP220
10.88283051Trentino-Alto-Adige:ALP414
11.31998233Trentino-Alto-Adige:ALP071
11.75678102Aosta-Valley:ALP227_Aosta-Valley


Distance to:C7:Medieval_European:R1286_Cancelleria
8.96067520Trentino-Alto-Adige:ALP414
9.07186309Corsica_o:CorsicaS13308
12.34207438Friuli-Venezia-Giulia:ALP188
14.26891026Friuli-Venezia-Giulia:ALP220
15.69991083Friuli-Venezia-Giulia:ALP435


Distance to:C7:Medieval_European:R1224_Cancelleria
5.47074035Aosta-Valley:ALP227_Aosta-Valley
5.49267694Trentino-Alto-Adige:ALP070
5.84825615Trentino-Alto-Adige:ALP071
5.96626349Aosta-Valley:ALP225_Aosta-Valley
6.17988673Veneto:ALP481_Sappada_BL_Veneto


Distance to:C7:Medieval_European:R1221_Cancelleria
3.79175421Veneto:ALP481_Sappada_BL_Veneto
5.37303452Trentino-Alto-Adige:ALP070
5.56469226Veneto:KF1803151
5.65681889Corsica_o:corsica11908
5.86995741Piedmont:ItalyPiedmont127


Distance to:C7:Medieval_European:R1220_Cancelleria
6.01128106Corsica_o:CorsicaS13308
6.66395528Trentino-Alto-Adige:ALP071
6.70908339Friuli-Venezia-Giulia:ALP220
6.75182938Aosta-Valley:ALP227_Aosta-Valley
7.49129495Trentino-Alto-Adige:ALP070


Distance to:C7:Medieval_European:R1219_Cancelleria
6.39014084Corsica_o:CorsicaS13308
7.15956004Trentino-Alto-Adige:ALP414
7.56361025Friuli-Venezia-Giulia:ALP220
8.69537808Friuli-Venezia-Giulia:ALP435
10.16225369Friuli-Venezia-Giulia:ALP188

 
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Modern Italians with medieval Italian samples, C6 and C7.
 

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