Who were the Thracians?

[Sile]

Thracians Had European black hair ( instead of the pitch black asian colour), and either blue, grey or green eyes. In majority their hair was straight and they wore it in the "top knot" style.

The thracians traded for red haired women ( as noted ancient historians )

http://www.academia.edu/738235/Odyrsian_arms_equipment_and_tactics

 

[Garrick]

Yes I can not understand how this forum allows people to give negative points for whatever they want . I guess I should start giving negative points to Albanian and Western European comments, just like this? Ofc not I am a man
I want moderators to check who is giving me negative points and give them warning and negative points. I demand this, I have insulted nobody and propaganda of West Balkan nationalists or West European R1b supermacist insults me

Every has right to vote how wants. Unfortunately the quality of what you said for someone is not important in comparison to other motives. In other words whatever you say convincingly, reasonable and based on the facts gets negative points because it does not fit into someone's dogma. But it doesn't matter.

Robert Axelrod claim that the key to dong well lies not in overcoming others, but eliciting their cooperation. According to Cristoph Adami evolution punishes people who are selfish and mean. Evolution cancels those who do not want to cooperate.

 

[Maleth]

I found this really interesting. Thracians / Dacians seem to have a very interesting story and not as well known/promoted as much as other ancient groups around Europe. They seem to have been somehow intertwined one way or another with Greek and Roman histories. Spartacus was from Thrace too This documentary has subtitles.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wxjwMKqkeAM

 

[Giacomo Pozza]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sacred_pit_of_Garlo

An interesting monument, the sacred pit of Garlo, it's been associated by many archeologists with the hundreds of Nuragic water well temples found in Sardinia.

 

[Maleth]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sacred_pit_of_Garlo

An interesting monument, the sacred pit of Garlo, it's been associated by many archeologists with the hundreds of Nuragic water well temples found in Sardinia.

Giacomo, you think there was a connection between Thracains and the Nuragic culture of Sardinia?. Another documentary on the Thracians stated that they traded as far as Denmark and at one time had a strong fleet and traded also in the Peloponnese.

 

[Giacomo Pozza]

Giacomo, you think there was a connection between Thracains and the Nuragic culture of Sardinia?. Another documentary on the Thracians stated that they traded as far as Denmark and at one time had a strong fleet and traded also in the Peloponnese.

Yes, I think so, recent discoveries proved that the Nuragics traded far and wide, their pottery has been found as far as Cyprus, Atlantic Spain, Continental italy, Tyrins, Crete and different other locations: A recent study (2013) of 71 ancientSwedish bronze objects dated to Nordic Bronze Age, revealed that most of copper utilized at that time in Scandinavia came from Sardinia and the Iberian peninsula.^[29].

Recently a whole city was discovered under the site of monte prama, where the Nuragic statues were found, the Nuragic even imported melons (which have been dated with C14 to 1320-1150 bc) from Africa or the Near east.

For these and many other reasons they are believed by many to be one of the most mentioned sea people: the Sherden.

Now we know that probably most of the sea people were Agean/Mycenean and we know that the Nuragics arrived in those regions and vice versa many myceneans came to Sardinia, Thracians were probably culturally close to the sea people as well, being so close to Mycenean Greece, so I think it's reasonable to think they've met.

Plus that sacred pit has been compared by a Bulgarian archeologist to another one in Sardinia (I think the one in Ballao), which looks almost identical to it and they are dated to a similar period too, perhaps the one in Sardinia is a little older (1250 bc), compared to the one in Bulgaria (1100-1000 bc).

 

[Maleth]

Yes, I think so, recent discoveries proved that the Nuragics traded far and wide, their pottery has been found as far as Cyprus, Atlantic Spain, Continental italy, Tyrins, Crete and different other locations: A recent study (2013) of 71 ancientSwedish bronze objects dated to Nordic Bronze Age, revealed that most of copper utilized at that time in Scandinavia came from Sardinia and the Iberian peninsula.^[29].

Recently a whole city was discovered under the site of monte prama, where the Nuragic statues were found, the Nuragic even imported melons (which have been dated with C14 to 1320-1150 bc) from Africa or the Near east.

For these and many other reasons they are believed by many to be one of the most mentioned sea people: the Sherden.

Now we know that probably most of the sea people were Agean/Mycenean and we know that the Nuragics arrived in those regions and vice versa many myceneans came to Sardinia, Thracians were probably culturally close to the sea people as well, being so close to Mycenean Greece, so I think it's reasonable to think they've met.

Plus that sacred pit has been compared by a Bulgarian archeologist to another one in Sardinia (I think the one in Ballao), which looks almost identical to it and they are dated to a similar period too, perhaps the one in Sardinia is a little older (1250 bc), compared to the one in Bulgaria (1100-1000 bc).

That is all quite interesting and I am sure there is so much we need to find out on ancient peoples interactions as the remains found can tell a thousand stories. In Malta we have an unusual construction who some have even claimed it could be handed down as a Nuragic design from generation to generation. These were used as shelter from Sun and Rain and to store tools when farmers had to go long distances to tend their fields and maybe hunting. They are called girnas.

http://www.stoneshelter.org/stone/girna.htm

 

[Giacomo Pozza]

That is all quite interesting and I am sure there is so much we need to find out on ancient peoples interactions as the remains found can tell a thousand stories. In Malta we have an unusual construction who some have even claimed it could be handed down as a Nuragic design from generation to generation. These were used as shelter from Sun and Rain and to store tools when farmers had to go long distances to tend their fields and maybe hunting. They are called girnas.

http://www.stoneshelter.org/stone/girna.htm

I think those look like early Nuragic constructions, have they been dated yet?, they look like the proto Nuraghi (2000-1700 bc), this is an example: http://www.megalithic.co.uk/a558/a312/gallery/Central_Europe/Italy/Sardinia/talei-protonuraghe3.JPG
And this is a single tower Nuraghe (1500 bc): http://www.catturalasardegna.it/albums/userpics/10418/normal_200923124935_succoronis.jpg
They both look extremely alike to those structures you've just posted.


This is really interesting, I found this on wikipedia: Around the end of the third millennium BC, Sardinia exported towards Sicily a Culture that built small dolmens, trilithic or polygonal shaped, that served as tombs as it has been ascertained in the Sicilian dolmen of ?Cava dei Servi?. From this region they reached Malta island and other countries of Mediterranean basin.<sup>[63]



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[Maleth]

I think those look like early Nuragic constructions, have they been dated yet?, they look like the proto Nuraghi (2000-1700 bc), this is an example: http://www.megalithic.co.uk/a558/a312/gallery/Central_Europe/Italy/Sardinia/talei-protonuraghe3.JPG
And this is a single tower Nuraghe (1500 bc): http://www.catturalasardegna.it/albums/userpics/10418/normal_200923124935_succoronis.jpg
They both look extremely alike to those structures you've just posted.


This is really interesting, I found this on wikipedia: Around the end of the third millennium BC, Sardinia exported towards Sicily a Culture that built small dolmens, trilithic or polygonal shaped, that served as tombs as it has been ascertained in the Sicilian dolmen of �Cava dei Servi�. From this region they reached Malta island and other countries of Mediterranean basin.^[63]I

Very interesting and they look similar indeed. Its a pity that no study is conclusive but its very probable. Many of them have been restored as they were falling into ruins, but I never came across any serious write ups about their story. Maltese pre history revolves soley on the Megalithic temples of 5600 bp (which are a mystery in themselves) and the cart ruts (another mystery) http://www.cartrutsmalta.com/. I think the girnas deserve similar attention.