Will all people of the world mix creating one race in the future?

[LeBrok]

I travel a lot, not gonna change the flag every time I stay in a new country.

To undo Jacobins' work

I shall call you Don Quixote, how fitting to the location.



Hurry up with your work though. The new atheist gospel is growing fast.

Check at 30 min 20 sec in.

All the organized religion gives without the trappings of believing in god(s).

 

[Kardu]

I shall call you Don Quixote, how fitting to the location.



Hurry up with your work though. The new atheist gospel is growing fast.

Check at 30 min 20 sec in.

All the organized religion gives without the trappings of believing in god(s).

I take it as a compliment

You love to rush to conclusions don't you? Have I ever said that I was a religious believer? While you certainly are a secular Christian

 

[LeBrok]

This chart indicates the mixing trend very nicely. Statistics from London, GB. People not only mix, but mixing is speeding up.

http://www.economist.com/news/brita...britain-changing-neighbourhoodsand-perplexing

 

[LeBrok]

I take it as a compliment

You love to rush to conclusions don't you? Have I ever said that I was a religious believer? While you certainly are a secular Christian

I used to be, now I'm atheists.

 

[Kardu]

I used to be, now I'm atheists.

"to make sure people are free, free to choose, express, believe, inclusive to all, protection of weak and unfortunate, equality in justice, and few other things" - all this universalism stems from Christianity (one of the reasons why I am not one). You might not believe in Christian God, but if you share those values, then it makes you a secular christian.

 

[LeBrok]

"to make sure people are free, free to choose, express, believe, inclusive to all, protection of weak and unfortunate, equality in justice, and few other things" - all this universalism stems from Christianity (one of the reasons why I am not one). You might not believe in Christian God, but if you share those values, then it makes you a secular christian.

You must have went to special school to learn this secret knowledge. Thanks for telling me who I am. I was blind, now I can see.

What do you think about this, mixing is speeding up, right?

 

[Fire Haired14]

Nobody denies that there are interest groups or rich individuals supporting certain views with their deep pockets. Everybody is trying to influence people with their views, the conservatives, religious groups, atheists, liberals, Nazis, Chinese, Arabs, Russians, philanthropists, etc, etc. The point is there is no national government program, or propaganda if you will, in States or Canada in support of one uniform view. The only agenda is democracy, to make sure people are free, free to choose, express, believe, inclusive to all, protection of weak and unfortunate, equality in justice, and few other things we understand under Democratic system. In this free environment people can hear any voice, find what they like and understand, and formulate their views and actions.
Here you will find conservative and even racist views encouraging people to marry into their own community, and other views saying that it is perfectly ok to marry anyone you want. The point is people make their own choices here in finding partners. They also have a free choice to divorce if they feel that they made a mistake. Nobody prosecutes people for making their choices and their own mistakes, in finding partners.

I lived in totalitarian regime, I hated it, escaped to Canada and I love it. I know what is propaganda and agenda, I know totalitarian and free. So don't give me this totalitarian disguise bull***.

The funny thing is that you believe in free choice of choosing spouses, but at the same time you limit it to your own race or ethnicity. I also believe in free choice, but without limitation to colour or nationality. And I have the agenda?!

By law that's true but in reality it is totally false. Religious people and conservatives are constantly mocked in popular culture. If anything our establishment if of atheist liberals, who do send out propaganda via media(not that it's illegal, just they're inproportionally in control).

This is what I've observed. It may be hard for you to see because you agree with alot of what they say. Don't call me crazy because I'm not one who jumps to quick conclusions because of an agenda. No I haven't done years worth of research on it to prove it to you because I don't have time, but I witness it everyday.

Also, I totally dis agree with this idea you have that tolerance means we should allow people to do and be whatever the heck they want. Human society is like a family and the way everyone thinks and acts affects everyone. There are very hard to define black lines that should not be ignored.

 

[Aberdeen]

By law that's true but in reality it is totally false. Religious people and conservatives are constantly mocked in popular culture. If anything our establishment if of atheist liberals, who do send out propaganda via media(not that it's illegal, just they're inproportionally in control).

This is what I've observed. It may be hard for you to see because you agree with alot of what they say. Don't call me crazy because I'm not one who jumps to quick conclusions because of an agenda. No I haven't done years worth of research on it to prove it to you because I don't have time, but I witness it everyday.

Also, I totally dis agree with this idea you have that tolerance means we should allow people to do and be whatever the heck they want. Human society is like a family and the way everyone thinks and acts affects everyone. There are very hard to define black lines that should not be ignored.

I realize that poor, butt hurt religious conservatives will refuse to recognize that the media (which is generally owned by rich people) tends to be kinder towards them than it is toward ebil libruls. However, when you say that you disagree with the idea that "tolerance means we should allow people to do and be whatever the heck they want", you're basically arguing with the dictionary. My dictionary defines "tolerance" as "a willingness to be tolerant and patient toward people whose opinion or ways differ from one's own".

 

[Maleth]

By law that's true but in reality it is totally false. Religious people and conservatives are constantly mocked in popular culture. If anything our establishment if of atheist liberals, who do send out propaganda via media(not that it's illegal, just they're inproportionally in control).

.....and you really truly believe that Religion or Conservatives never mock anyone? saying that people will burn in hell just because they are not interested in what they preach isnt even worse then mockng? Isnt it amazing that someone thinks what they say is legitimate and if challenged they are mocked? How many examples do you need of Religious hate speech (mocking)?

 

[Kardu]

You must have went to special school to learn this secret knowledge. Thanks for telling me who I am. I was blind, now I can see.

What do you think about this, mixing is speeding up, right?

Alas you are still blind

Well, I don't have much trust for the bogus surveys and research done by politically biased bodies
But even if it's true, so what? Interest groups created this situation, let's see how counter interest groups will change it.

 

[Kardu]

The theme of this thread has been changed from [h=1]Will all people of the world mix creating one race in the future?[/h]
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[h=1]Do you support all people of the world to mix creating one race in the future? [/h]

 

[Aberdeen]

The theme of this thread has been changed from Will all people of the world mix creating one race in the future?


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Do you support all people of the world to mix creating one race in the future?

Really? I thought the topic had changed to:

"A lot of racial mixing is going on these days, and that's likely to continue even if some people disapprove, but why does that bother you so much? (Please explain without resorting to conspiracy theories involving the Protocols of Zion or the Bavarian Illuminati.)"

 

[Fire Haired14]

I realize that poor, butt hurt religious conservatives will refuse to recognize that the media (which is generally owned by rich people) tends to be kinder towards them than it is toward ebil libruls. However, when you say that you disagree with the idea that "tolerance means we should allow people to do and be whatever the heck they want", you're basically arguing with the dictionary. My dictionary defines "tolerance" as "a willingness to be tolerant and patient toward people whose opinion or ways differ from one's own".

I dis agree with this. Maybe sometime in the future I'll organize the time to prove to you and others how biasedly liberal(for the most part) the public world is. I don't understand why libearls can't understand this. My guess is you don't want it to be true. Watch Family Guy and Saturday Night Live or any other popular show, and you'll see what I'm talking about.

Please keep the words poor and butt-hurt out of this. We're here to discuss and find the correct answer together not be enemies.

 

[Fire Haired14]

.....and you really truly believe that Religion or Conservatives never mock anyone? saying that people will burn in hell just because they are not interested in what they preach isnt even worse then mockng? Isnt it amazing that someone thinks what they say is legitimate and if challenged they are mocked? How many examples do you need of Religious hate speech (mocking)?

Not all conservatives are cultic-nut cases. Besides what people say in churches and private life is differnt than what they say in the media, it has much less influence. This is a large generalization. I never said they don't mock anyone. All I said is they are often mocked via media, and the public is given a biased picture when it comes to social issues and politics. Please don't miss interpret me. I'm not you're stero-typical right-wing extremist, who would support the tea party, etc.

 

[Angela]

Alas you are still blind

Well, I don't have much trust for the bogus surveys and research done by politically biased bodies
But even if it's true, so what? Interest groups created this situation, let's see how counter interest groups will change it.

Oh, for goodness sakes'...this isn't Europe.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bergen_County,_New_Jersey
Take a look at the "ethnic" and racial groups that are represented in this county, one of the richest in the U.S.

This is a more "mixed" town, maybe a quarter African-American, so higher than the national average:

Even in the more predominantly "white" villages like Ridgewood, which is in the top 25 richest villages in the U.S., it sometimes looks like this:

Are all the parents thrilled? No, some, perhaps even the majority, are not thrilled when it involves their own children, even if in general they don't oppose it. Do all the kids cross the "color line" when dating? Absolutely not. In fact, the majority clearly do not, as the statistics indicate. However, it is increasing, and the attitude is live and let live, even among the adults. As for the kids, even if they don't date across certain lines, they are friends or at least friendly. (The situation is totally different as concerns the really impoverished minority communities. )

No internet "white supremacist" group is going to turn the vast majority of these kids into nut jobs foaming at the mouth because some of their peers are part of inter-racial partnerships. The only ones that might be affected are the at risk kids who are loners and outsiders for various reasons. The older generation is totally out of step, and that goes for the so called African American leaders too. As for inter-ethnic issues, forget it...everybody is 1/4 this, 1/4 that, 1/2 the other. Nobody cares.

 

[Fire Haired14]

I realize that poor, butt hurt religious conservatives will refuse to recognize that the media (which is generally owned by rich people) tends to be kinder towards them than it is toward ebil libruls. However, when you say that you disagree with the idea that "tolerance means we should allow people to do and be whatever the heck they want", you're basically arguing with the dictionary. My dictionary defines "tolerance" as "a willingness to be tolerant and patient toward people whose opinion or ways differ from one's own".

So, you're assuming rich people are conservative?

 

[Fire Haired14]

I realize that poor, butt hurt religious conservatives will refuse to recognize that the media (which is generally owned by rich people) tends to be kinder towards them than it is toward ebil libruls. However, when you say that you disagree with the idea that "tolerance means we should allow people to do and be whatever the heck they want", you're basically arguing with the dictionary. My dictionary defines "tolerance" as "a willingness to be tolerant and patient toward people whose opinion or ways differ from one's own".

It's the idea not word that matters. I don't care how the dictionary defines tolerant. I care about my values, and you can call it whatever you want. Besides that definition doesn't suggest you there are no boundaries.

 

[Angela]

Not all conservatives are cultic-nut cases. Besides what people say in churches and private life is differnt than what they say in the media, it has much less influence. This is a large generalization. I never said they don't mock anyone. All I said is they are often mocked via media, and the public is given a biased picture when it comes to social issues and politics. Please don't miss interpret me. I'm not you're stero-typical right-wing extremist, who would support the tea party, etc.

You're right, Fire-Haired. There's too much generalization on all sides and there are nut jobs on all sides. There are Christians and there are Christians, and the surest way to get mocked in the media is to have anything good to say about established religions.

 

[LeBrok]

By law that's true but in reality it is totally false. Religious people and conservatives are constantly mocked in popular culture. If anything our establishment if of atheist liberals, who do send out propaganda via media(not that it's illegal, just they're inproportionally in control).

This is what I've observed. It may be hard for you to see because you agree with alot of what they say. Don't call me crazy because I'm not one who jumps to quick conclusions because of an agenda. No I haven't done years worth of research on it to prove it to you because I don't have time, but I witness it everyday.

Also, I totally dis agree with this idea you have that tolerance means we should allow people to do and be whatever the heck they want. Human society is like a family and the way everyone thinks and acts affects everyone. There are very hard to define black lines that should not be ignored.

Conservatives mock liberals and liberals mock conservatives, in all mass-medias. That's part of being free, isn't it? But what with "God bless America" in very presidential speech, swearing on a bible in courts of law, or Trusting in God on the money, and teaching creationism in schools". Shouldn't you have a separation of religion and a state? In some ways US is still quite conservative, not enough inclusive and tolerant.

 

[Fire Haired14]

Conservatives mock liberals and liberals mock conservatives, in all mass-medias. That's part of being free, isn't it?

The mocking isn't evenly distributed. There shouldn't be any mocking in the first place. I don't mean to be offensive, but you're lying to yourself if you think we life in a balanced society.

But what with "God bless America" in very presidential speech, swearing on a bible in courts of law, or Trusting in God on the money, and teaching creationism in schools". Shouldn't you have a separation of religion and a state? In some ways US is still quite conservative, not enough inclusive and tolerant.

America didn't pop out of no where, it has roots. America in many ways comes from Europe(British colony, there's no debating this) which was pretty much uniformly Christian for a 1,000 years before America was founded. When America was founded it existed in a very Christian society, and the only diversity of religion were differnt Christian sects and other very unpopular newly formed religions. If Poles founded a country like America in the 1700s somewhere far away would you surprised to find leaks of Catholicism in its traditional way of doing government?

This is why we have in God this and that. It's been around since our begging and if you understand culturally where America comes from you should be fine with it. This is not evidence that the current media is conservative or balanced. I don't dispute there's biased conservatism in mainstream society but I won't lie and say its balanced.