Mars, all of this is so subjective, particularly if it strays into definitions of "attractiveness". I was the one at fault there, so I apologize. It's irrelevant for this purpose that I find that "beige" look not the most attractive in the world ( surely you know what I mean...sandy hair, not particularly very light or very olive skin, intermediate color eyes). I am surprised to hear you say, though, that you see people who look like Pellegrini all the time. Didn't you say you live in Liguria and are mostly Ligurian? There are people with that kind of coloring there, but it's usually far more striking. The features are different too even if the people are fair. I don't think Pellegrini's look is necessarily the typical Piemontese look either or the typical Emilian one. Or is northern Italy for the purposes of this thread just the Veneto and Lombardia north of the Po like it is for Lega Nord?
As for Tuscans, I didn't bring them up. Unless it's because I posted a picture of Cecilia Gallerani as The Lady With the Ermine? I know she was born in Siena, but Gallerani is mainly a surname from what looks like central Emilia Romagna. Plus, there's quite a bit in the classical anthropology literature about her particular look and how it is very diffused in the North, particularly in Emilia perhaps, so maybe that doesn't fit your definition of northern Italy. She did seem to fit the definition of a northern Italian for Lega Nord purposes, however. Didn't they use that painting in a lot of their posters and propaganda pieces? I vaguely remember that it said something to the effect that this is what a Northern Italian looks like...Of course, there may be some fringe Italians even more racist than Lega Nord types. I love that piece of art; I contemplated using it as my avatar more than once, but I didn't want any connection with that group. What a pity...they almost spoiled it for me.
Also, fess up now, Mars, I detect a little bit of pique in your inclusion of Benigni in the Tuscan selection.

I agree, you're right, discussions like this shouldn't only be about actors and models (although even if they're actors and models, they can embody their regions). However, we don't have to pick the absolutely homeliest residents do we? LOL I adore Benigni for his intellect, and wit, and his comedic genius, and his dedication to Italian culture, but he's a most decidedly funny looking man, as most comedians are...funny looking in a Tuscan way, I'll grant you.
As for the Apricity...I'd stay away from it if I were you. The times someone has told me to check out a thread there I've picked up a virus. I mean a computer virus, of course! Thank God it's only virtual reality! Also, I would think that prolonged exposure would rot the intellect as well as one's moral fiber since those things can
definitely be affected by the internet. It's a pity because I saw one or two threads on Italian culture and landscapes there, but it's not enough to save that site for me. Someone should also tell some of those posters that new laws are in the pipeline that make it illegal to post pictures of private individuals on the net without their express consent. They're going to run out of material.
Now, Mars, I don't mean to be rude, but there's a lot of genetics stuff going on which I find fascinating, and even I don't have infinite time for this Board

, so I won't be participating anymore on this thread. Plus, I don't want to dignify a thread which was obviously so "creepy" in its inception, as Motzart pointed out. You, like me, probably didn't pay much attention or remember most of the content on it. Also, my interest in phenotypes is basically limited to what "classifications" of them can add to information about population migrations and gene flow.