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Your opinion of italians

On italian looks


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North Italians are mixture of Central and South Europe, South Italians(Sicilians included) are South Europe with a bit of Central Europe and maybe just a touch of more exotic influence. Italians are Italians, if Italians are Middle Eastern, Germans are Mongol! Italy is beautiful country with funny,positive and pretty European people!End of story!
 
No, no, it was from northern Italy and did honor to the name of Rocco. perhaps not called Rocco and I baptized him, can not remember exactly, but he said he was from the north of Italy and as he spoke I could see those little houses with sloping roofs and people going to buy their cars.

If you baptized him with the name Rocco, used between southern Italians, I highly doubt that you can recognize a real Northern one.
 
^Rocco is a name only used for southern italian people, he must be a northern italian with southern origin

He is kidding us.

I think italinaos have many hobbies and are a bit: look at me but do not touch me, are careful and go to bed early so as not to grow old course are very stylish in dress, I dunno, I think they are a bit passé now my favorites are Berbers.
 
I will add to this, that Italians are becoming more unified by the fact that an increasing percentage of the northern Italian population is comprised of southerners who are moving north for work. Thus, some degree of regional, cultural, phenotypical differentiation will over time be blurred. But I also don't know if these southerners are assimilating into northern Italian regional culture.
 
I will add to this, that Italians are becoming more unified by the fact that an increasing percentage of the northern Italian population is comprised of southerners who are moving north for work. Thus, some degree of regional, cultural, phenotypical differentiation will over time be blurred. But I also don't know if these southerners are assimilating into northern Italian regional culture.
Except for some industrial areas, "southernization" of the North is often exaggerated on the Internet. Most of the north is genuinely "northern italian" yet, in large amounts. Generally speaking, and trust me there are people who look northern in the south and viceversa, southerners are more "mediterranean" looking - I mean, shorter on average, with darker hair and eyes - and northerners are taller and often fairer. I notice these different features in women mostly, even more than in men.
A northern woman, with typical features for her area, is Federica Pellegrini:
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A typical "southern-looking" woman is Carmen Consoli from Sicily:
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Tsk, tsk, Mars...how ungallant...such an unflattering picture of poor Carmen Consoli...well, unflattering as far as her face goes, anyway...:smile:

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These things are so subjective, but your first picture is also not the first image that comes to my mind for a northern Italian woman. This is what I think of:
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Or maybe she's what I think of when I think of a uniquely "Italian" woman. The other two could fit elsewhere...there's nothing "special" about them.
 
Tsk, tsk, Mars...how ungallant...such an unflattering picture of poor Carmen Consoli...well, unflattering as far as her face goes, anyway...:smile:

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These things are so subjective, but your first picture is also not the first image that comes to my mind for a northern Italian woman. This is what I think of:
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Or maybe she's what I think of when I think of a uniquely "Italian" woman. The other two could fit elsewhere...there's nothing "special" about them.

I'm not saying you're wrong. Maybe it's just me...maybe it's because I find her so...beige, and plain. :disappointed: Or maybe it's because the Italian faces that I think of first, and the ones that I like the most are the ones that almost couldn't be anything but Italian.
 
Threads like these creep me out

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What are Italians? a 10 year old girl that has a crush on me?
 
I'm glad to hear you say that, Motzart. They creep me out too, believe me, but this one has at least segued into a "marginally" respectable discussion of phenotypes. (We used to have a lot more anthrofora types than we have now, thank goodness.)
 
clizia Fontasier is your typical northern women............not too fair in hair colour., not too wide in the hips yet still feminine

https://www.google.com.au/search?q=...&ei=vEVHVJW4EqS4mAXJt4LQDw&sqi=2&ved=0CBwQsAQ

I agree, but I was looking for less... pretty examples :-) that's why I chose a swimmer and a songwriter, neither actresses or models, who look simply... "too much", you know what I mean ;) Pellegrini and Consoli are average looking IMO.
A good example of (pretty) woman from the south is apulian showgirl Rossella Brescia IMO
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I'm not saying you're wrong. Maybe it's just me...maybe it's because I find her so...beige, and plain. :disappointed: Or maybe it's because the Italian faces that I think of first, and the ones that I like the most are the ones that almost couldn't be anything but Italian.
Beige?! :-) I looked for average-looking italian women. I've seen some threads online in the last few days, on a weird website called appricity or stuff like that, where people post models and actors/actresses to show the "real" (?) look of their own people. It's quite childish, IMO... Pellegrini and Consoli have average look, they're not not much different from the girls I can meet in my city streets :smile:
 
I agree, but I was looking for less... pretty examples :-) that's why I chose a swimmer and a songwriter, neither actresses or models, who look simply... "too much", you know what I mean ;) Pellegrini and Consoli are average looking IMO.
A good example of (pretty) woman from the south is apulian showgirl Rossella Brescia IMO
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federica pelligrini the gold medalists from swimming olympics comes from a town on the mainland on the venetian lagoon

I do not know Rossella
 
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federica pelligrini the gold medalists from swimming olympics comes from a town on the mainland on the venetian lagoon

I do not know Rossella
Rossella Brescia is from the Foggia province (Apulia), if I remember correctly.
This sicilian woman, Valeria Bilello, is a "pan-italian" looking girl:
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Anyway, people often forget that we italians consider a group of regions - il Centro, the Centre - not included in the North/South divide but as part of its own. Regions as Tuscany and Latium are part of it... With people looking like this:
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Mars, all of this is so subjective, particularly if it strays into definitions of "attractiveness". I was the one at fault there, so I apologize. It's irrelevant for this purpose that I find that "beige" look not the most attractive in the world ( surely you know what I mean...sandy hair, not particularly very light or very olive skin, intermediate color eyes). I am surprised to hear you say, though, that you see people who look like Pellegrini all the time. Didn't you say you live in Liguria and are mostly Ligurian? There are people with that kind of coloring there, but it's usually far more striking. The features are different too even if the people are fair. I don't think Pellegrini's look is necessarily the typical Piemontese look either or the typical Emilian one. Or is northern Italy for the purposes of this thread just the Veneto and Lombardia north of the Po like it is for Lega Nord?

As for Tuscans, I didn't bring them up. Unless it's because I posted a picture of Cecilia Gallerani as The Lady With the Ermine? I know she was born in Siena, but Gallerani is mainly a surname from what looks like central Emilia Romagna. Plus, there's quite a bit in the classical anthropology literature about her particular look and how it is very diffused in the North, particularly in Emilia perhaps, so maybe that doesn't fit your definition of northern Italy. She did seem to fit the definition of a northern Italian for Lega Nord purposes, however. Didn't they use that painting in a lot of their posters and propaganda pieces? I vaguely remember that it said something to the effect that this is what a Northern Italian looks like...Of course, there may be some fringe Italians even more racist than Lega Nord types. I love that piece of art; I contemplated using it as my avatar more than once, but I didn't want any connection with that group. What a pity...they almost spoiled it for me.

Also, fess up now, Mars, I detect a little bit of pique in your inclusion of Benigni in the Tuscan selection. :) I agree, you're right, discussions like this shouldn't only be about actors and models (although even if they're actors and models, they can embody their regions). However, we don't have to pick the absolutely homeliest residents do we? LOL I adore Benigni for his intellect, and wit, and his comedic genius, and his dedication to Italian culture, but he's a most decidedly funny looking man, as most comedians are...funny looking in a Tuscan way, I'll grant you.

As for the Apricity...I'd stay away from it if I were you. The times someone has told me to check out a thread there I've picked up a virus. I mean a computer virus, of course! Thank God it's only virtual reality! Also, I would think that prolonged exposure would rot the intellect as well as one's moral fiber since those things can definitely be affected by the internet. It's a pity because I saw one or two threads on Italian culture and landscapes there, but it's not enough to save that site for me. Someone should also tell some of those posters that new laws are in the pipeline that make it illegal to post pictures of private individuals on the net without their express consent. They're going to run out of material.

Now, Mars, I don't mean to be rude, but there's a lot of genetics stuff going on which I find fascinating, and even I don't have infinite time for this Board :), so I won't be participating anymore on this thread. Plus, I don't want to dignify a thread which was obviously so "creepy" in its inception, as Motzart pointed out. You, like me, probably didn't pay much attention or remember most of the content on it. Also, my interest in phenotypes is basically limited to what "classifications" of them can add to information about population migrations and gene flow.
 
I am surprised to hear you say, though, that you see people who look like Pellegrini all the time. Didn't you say you live in Liguria and are mostly Ligurian? There are people with that kind of coloring there, but it's usually far more striking. The features are different too even if the people are fair. I don't think Pellegrini's look is necessarily the typical Piemontese look either or the typical Emilian one. Or is northern Italy for the purposes of this thread just the Veneto and Lombardia north of the Po like it is for Lega Nord?
Well here in the Genoa area her features aren't striking at all among girls with northern italian ancestry. She's not probably "the" northern italian type (but is there only one?), but it's common. The girlfriend of my friend posted for "guessification" in this forum a few weeks ago belongs to that type, and a couple of friends of mine of full ligurian ancestry, too (they're two twin sisters).
Ca'a Angela, pensu de cunusce ben a mé gente, 'a Pellegrini a nu l'è insolita mancu pe' n bellu belin :) :) ;)
 
The OP is a notorious Sardianian ***** from Cagliari named Chiara. She has got an obsession for everything Tuscan.

Most of the options are retarded anyway.
 
Well here in the Genoa area her features aren't striking at all among girls with northern italian ancestry. She's not probably "the" northern italian type (but is there only one?), but it's common. The girlfriend of my friend posted for "guessification" in this forum a few weeks ago belongs to that type, and a couple of friends of mine of full ligurian ancestry, too (they're two twin sisters).
Ca'a Angela, pensu de cunusce ben a mé gente, 'a Pellegrini a nu l'è insolita mancu pe' n bellu belin :) :) ;)

Of course you know Genova better than I do if you have lived there all your life. I'm from the other end, and most of my year is spent elsewhere, so I will take your word for it that she is not unusual for its environs. For you, I will even state that I am now persuaded that she isn't plain. :)
 
Just a question since we are on the topic of Genoa -- how closely related are people in Liguria and in Corsica? It has been suggested that their languages are very close, and that a lot of the surnames are shared. How true is this, and also, do they look similar?
 
Except for some industrial areas, "southernization" of the North is often exaggerated on the Internet.

Very true.

Anyway, people often forget that we italians consider a group of regions - il Centro, the Centre - not included in the North/South divide but as part of its own. Regions as Tuscany and Latium are part of it... With people looking like this:
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Roberto Benigni (last pic) has an unique look and he has built its success also on this uniqueness. Instead the actress Chiara Francini has a more common look in Tuscany. Like other Italians, Northern Italians included, Tuscans can vary a lot from one another.

Mars, all of this is so subjective, particularly if it strays into definitions of "attractiveness".

I completely agree with you.

As for Tuscans, I didn't bring them up. Unless it's because I posted a picture of Cecilia Gallerani as The Lady With the Ermine? I know she was born in Siena, but Gallerani is mainly a surname from what looks like central Emilia Romagna. Plus, there's quite a bit in the classical anthropology literature about her particular look and how it is very diffused in the North, particularly in Emilia perhaps, so maybe that doesn't fit your definition of northern Italy. She did seem to fit the definition of a northern Italian for Lega Nord purposes, however.

Cecilia Gallerani was born in Milan, not in Siena, but her family was originally from Siena (she was a descendant of Ciampolo and Iacomo Gallerani. Source: F. Calvi, Famiglie notabili milanesi, III, Milano 1874). Like many other Tuscan Ghibelline families Gallerani were forced to move to North Italy. On the other hand, also many Tuscan Guelph families were forced to leave Tuscany.

Just a question since we are on the topic of Genoa -- how closely related are people in Liguria and in Corsica? It has been suggested that their languages are very close, and that a lot of the surnames are shared. How true is this, and also, do they look similar?

Corsican language is based on early Medieval Tuscan, with various morphological and phonetical influences from North (Liguria, especially) to South Italy. There are in Corsica some Ligurian language islands, the most famous is Bonifacio, a town founded by Tuscans around 9th century AD, but Tuscans were later replaced by Genoese people. Another Ligurian language island in Corsica is (or was?) Calvi. A Ligurian heritage can be found in some toponyms (place names ending in -asco, -asca, -usco, -osco, -osca...), but Corsican surnames are generally shared more with the Tuscans. Of course there are in Corsica also many surnames shared with Liguria and more in general with North Italy. Genetically I don't think that Corsicans are exactly the same of Ligurians or Tuscans and neither a mix of them. There were surely many migrations from Tuscany, Sardinia, Liguria, and other Northern Italian regions, and in the last decades from South Italy, but Corsica was already inhabited before any contacts with Italian peninsula during the early Middle Ages.
 
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