Classify Me/Where can I Pass

qh777 said:
Ah so you've seen my phenotype walking around in Scotland?
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Your type is quite common in the west of Scotland, not the east which is more Scandinavian and Anglian.
 
I tried googling west Scottish people and it didn’t work out lol
 
Next question would be do I look more like the Anatolian farmers/eef, steppe, whg or a mix of all three?
 
In don't think you would be a copy of Anatolian farmers whatever their subtype. I suppose you represent rather this mix, the base of today Europeans whatever the percentages of components, or more exactly, ONE of the diverse individual phoenotypes this mix produced. Not A type in the sense of typology. The common case. The individuals who represent as a whole a collective type are finally rare enough, more or less according to regions, and this type is not always in direct link with allover autosomal DNA.
 
Dude, you could be from anywhere in Europe except maybe Scandinavia.
 
norbert said:
Dude, you could be from anywhere in Europe except maybe Scandinavia.
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I don’t think I mentioned what I personally thought but I’d say that I could pass anywhere in Western Europe including parts of Iberia and Italy.
 
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Before I reveal what I am, I'm waiting for for my 23@me and Myheritage raw data files to load on Illustrative dna and cross examine them with everything else. I was told I get more accurate g25 coordinates on IllustrativeDNA. Is that correct?
 
Metrics are more useful than opinions based on Photos
 
felipesc500 said:
Metrics are more useful than opinions based on Photos
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Yes, you are correct but there is a subforum I should have created this thread in called guess the ethnicity. It might be a couple of days before the data is ready which is puzzling to me. I've uploaded raw data to dnagenics, genomelink etc. and it takes a few minutes to be ready. So you might as well take a guess haha.
 
Here’s a little sneak preview IMG_1655.jpg if you add up the percentages it’s over 75% Celtic. So Duarte is indeed correct about heavy Celtic inputs. I’ll add that the results on Mytrueancestry are from MyHeritage raw data upload.
 
felipesc500 said:
Metrics are more useful than opinions based on Photos
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W
what kind of metrics? The global ones, or the typologic ones? These last ones can provide more details in crossings, the more frequent case. And as the look can be misleading for ethny (more frequent cause: share crossings) the mean metrics can be misleading so. These games of guessing ethny are games, and I take them as so, no more.
a lot of pics can give some clues but I agree that pics can mislead us even with more than an angle, without serious metrics; lenses are tricky!
 
So my ancestry is and not in any particular order: English, Scottish, Irish, French, German and Belgian. So essentially every one who guessed is correct! The Italian/North Italian I’ll address when I share with Illustrative DNA. For now I’ll post my results from AncestryDNA and 23&Me. Kudos to Vallicanus as well. I have a known great grandparent from Bellshill, LanarkshireIMG_1641.jpg
 
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here are my g25 coords from Illustrative dna:

Code: 
qh777_23&me_scaled,0.133173,0.135065,0.056568,0.036499,0.037853,0.011156,-0.005875,0.003923,0.0045,0.011481,-0.008282,0.013188,-0.010555,-0.019818,0.020765,0.005834,-0.002608,0.001774,0.00264,0.002626,0.009608,0.002473,0,0.016388,0.00143

qh777_myheritage_scaled,0.133173,0.135065,0.056568,0.036499,0.037853,0.011156,-0.005875,0.003923,0.0045,0.011481,-0.008282,0.013188,-0.010555,-0.019818,0.020765,0.005834,-0.002608,0.001774,0.00264,0.002626,0.009608,0.002473,0,0.016388,0.001437

Strange how they are the same. The only difference I can see is the last number.

Ancient:

Distance to:qh777_myheritage_scaled
0.02324527England_MIA_LIA:I21310
0.02436840Sweden_Viking.SG:VK403_noUDG.SG
0.02475856England_MIA:I19907
0.02505189England_EIA:I27383
0.02510944Hungary_Conqueror_Commoner:SH-106.SG
0.02530637England_MIA_LIA:I21312
0.02532761England_MIA:I14860
0.02556613England_Saxon.SG:HAD001.SG
0.02582419England_EastYorkshire_LIA:I22062
0.02589083England_LBA:I14379
0.02592869England_MIA:I19912
0.02610044England_LIA:I12927
0.02638494England_EIA:I27382
0.02643360England_EastYorkshire_EIA:I11033
0.02655770England_MIA:I3014
0.02658078Germany_Schleswig_Saxon_LMedieval:SWG006.A_noUDG
0.02681602England_MIA:I11156
0.02695373England_MIA:I13730
0.02704576England_EarlyMedieval_Saxon:I0161
0.02709746England_MBA:I19857
0.02715168England_MIA:I14551
0.02725099England_Saxon:HAD018_noUDG
0.02746669England_EastYorkshire_MIA_LIA:I14105
0.02747566Germany_Schleswig_Saxon_LMedieval:SWG012.A
0.02772296England_MIA_LIA:I11991
0.02775635France_Sarrebourg_LateAntiquity.SG:R11560.SG
0.02786326England_MIA:I17016
0.02791980England_MIA_LIA:I21311
0.02796655Ireland_Kilteasheen_AngloSaxon_EMedieval_Norman:KIL025.B_noUDG
0.02798252Ireland_Viking.SG:VK545_noUDG.SG


Target: qh777_myheritage_scaled
Distance: 0.0062% / 0.00624845 | R7P
21.5 England_Saxon
20.6 Spain_IA
18.8 Ireland_Kilteasheen_AngloSaxon_EMedieval_Norman
13.5 Sweden_Viking.SG
12.9 Netherlands_Groningen_Saxon_Medieval
7.2 Iceland_Pre_Christian.SG
5.5 Armenia_UrartianEmpire


Target: qh777_myheritage_scaled
Distance: 0.0075% / 0.00752802 | R5P
28.8 Denmark_Viking.SG
18.9 Netherlands_Groningen_Saxon_Medieval
18.0 Czech_BellBeaker
17.7 Scotland_Viking_o.SG
16.6 Spain_IA




Target: qh777_myheritage_scaled
Distance: 0.0083% / 0.00834580 | R4P
34.5 Ireland_Kilteasheen_AngloSaxon_EMedieval_Norman
34.2 Denmark_Viking.SG
18.9 Spain_IA
12.4 Czech_BellBeaker




Target: qh777_myheritage_scaled
Distance: 0.0094% / 0.00942164 | R3P
67.8 England_MIA
20.0 Czech_BellBeaker
12.2 Spain_IA

Modern:

Distance to:qh777_myheritage_scaled
0.02153143Welsh:WalesBK68
0.02159194French_Brittany:Rennes_B_16
0.02167312English_Cornwall:HG00255
0.02264562French_Brittany:Rennes_B_46
0.02267627English:England9
0.02326510English_Cornwall:HG00264
0.02339429English:HG01791
0.02396348BelgianB:5434289058_R04C01
0.02401035Dutch:GSM1634041
0.02409048Welsh:WalesCHF63
0.02411820French_Paris:1_2
0.02414557French_Brittany:Rennes_B_48
0.02431648Welsh:WalesL40
0.02444383English_Cornwall:HG00243
0.02455990Afrikaner:AFR053
0.02477076French_Brittany:Rennes_B_95
0.02484337English:English4
0.02493401French_Brittany:Rennes_B_23
0.02508719French_Brittany:Rennes_B_12
0.02521546Dutch:GSM1633936
0.02522873Irish:Irish12
0.02566260French_Nord:N_19
0.02580656English_Cornwall:HG00236
0.02581786BelgianA:5434289001_R03C02
0.02587661Irish:Irish11
0.02594144Welsh:WalesDR56
0.02600732Welsh:WalesL86
0.02635367English_Cornwall:HG00259
0.02643607Scottish:Scottish27
0.02649460English:English5

Target: qh777_myheritage_scaled
Distance: 0.0049% / 0.00488717 | R7P
50.1 Irish
12.4 Dutch
10.5 German
9.2 Basque_Gipuzkoa_Southwest
8.3 Basque_Biscay
6.7 Spanish_Lleida
2.8 Hunzib


Target: qh777_myheritage_scaled
Distance: 0.0049% / 0.00493689 | R5P
49.9 Irish
25.8 German
20.5 Basque_Baztan
2.4 Hunzib
1.4 Greenlander_East


Target: qh777_myheritage_scaled
Distance: 0.0052% / 0.00522414 | R4P
64.6 Irish
13.2 Basque_Gipuzkoa_Southwest
12.7 Italian_Emilia
9.5 Dutch


Target: qh777_myheritage_scaled
Distance: 0.0057% / 0.00570984 | R3P
75.4 Irish
12.6 Basque_Gipuzkoa_Southwest
12.0 Italian_Emilia

2way using allelocator:




41.9 million models (7.3 s):
0.013 qh777_myheritage_scaled = 57% French_Brittany:Rennes_B_16 + 43% Irish:Irish11
0.014 qh777_myheritage_scaled = 58% BelgianC:5434289003_R04C02 + 42% Irish:Irish7
0.014 qh777_myheritage_scaled = 52% Afrikaner:AFR053 + 48% Irish:Irish11
0.014 qh777_myheritage_scaled = 50% BelgianC:5434289003_R04C02 + 50% Irish:558
0.014 qh777_myheritage_scaled = 50% Irish:Irish62 + 50% French_Alsace:A_79
0.014 qh777_myheritage_scaled = 51% French_Brittany:Rennes_B_12 + 49% Irish:Irish11
0.014 qh777_myheritage_scaled = 60% French_Brittany:Rennes_B_12 + 40% Irish:Irish18
0.014 qh777_myheritage_scaled = 54% BelgianA:5434289001_R03C02 + 46% Irish:Irish62
0.015 qh777_myheritage_scaled = 70% Irish:Irish62 + 30% Spanish_Lleida:GUS036
0.015 qh777_myheritage_scaled = 66% Irish:Irish11 + 34% French_Occitanie:T_36
0.015 qh777_myheritage_scaled = 56% Irish:559 + 44% French_Nord:N_55
0.015 qh777_myheritage_scaled = 54% Irish:559 + 46% French_Occitanie:T_127
0.015 qh777_myheritage_scaled = 57% Irish:Irish43 + 43% French_Alsace:A_51
0.015 qh777_myheritage_scaled = 61% Irish:Irish62 + 39% French_Alsace:A_45
0.015 qh777_myheritage_scaled = 60% Irish:Irish62 + 40% BelgianC:5434289058_R05C01
0.015 qh777_myheritage_scaled = 57% BelgianB:5434289058_R04C01 + 43% Irish:Irish62
0.015 qh777_myheritage_scaled = 72% Irish:Irish62 + 28% Spanish_Valencia:HG01605
0.015 qh777_myheritage_scaled = 58% French_Brittany:Rennes_B_12 + 42% Irish:558
0.015 qh777_myheritage_scaled = 58% Irish:Irish43 + 42% German:German53
0.015 qh777_myheritage_scaled = 72% Irish:Irish62 + 28% Spanish_Peri-Barcelona:COM032
0.015 qh777_myheritage_scaled = 51% BelgianC:5434289001_R06C02 + 49% Irish:Irish43
0.015 qh777_myheritage_scaled = 54% Irish:Irish62 + 46% BelgianC:5434289051_R01C02
0.015 qh777_myheritage_scaled = 77% Scottish:Scottish27 + 23% Basque_Navarre_Center:2375
0.015 qh777_myheritage_scaled = 57% Irish:557 + 43% French_Provence:S_4
0.015 qh777_myheritage_scaled = 53% Irish:Irish11 + 47% French_Paris:19
0.015 qh777_myheritage_scaled = 64% Irish:Irish62 + 36% French_Auvergne:C_30
0.015 qh777_myheritage_scaled = 72% Scottish:Scottish27 + 28% French_Occitanie:T_51
0.015 qh777_myheritage_scaled = 53% Irish:Irish62 + 47% BelgianC:5434289075_R03C01
0.015 qh777_myheritage_scaled = 62% Welsh:WAL004 + 38% French_Alsace:A_51
0.015 qh777_myheritage_scaled = 66% Irish:Irish62 + 34% French_Occitanie:T_90
 
Top 30 closeset modern on Illustrative dna:


#POPULATIONDISTANCE
1Breton1.941
2Welsh2.213
3Cornish2.242
4English2.273
5Scottish2.394
6Belgian2.454
7Irish2.518
8Dutch2.528
9Orcadian2.533
10French Oïl (Ile-de-France)2.755
11French Oïl (Hauts-de-France)2.821
12French Oïl (Pays de la Loire)2.901
13Shetlander2.916
14Alsatian (Alsace)3.250
15German3.294
16Danish3.297
17Swiss (German)3.351
18French Oïl (Normandy)3.384
19Norwegian3.406
20Icelander3.472
21Norwegian (Bergen)3.488
22French Oïl (Bourgogne-Franche-Comte)3.523
23French Oïl (Grand Est)3.596
24German (Bavaria)3.608
25French Occitan (Occitanie)3.870
26German (Hamburg)3.923
27French Occitan (Auvergne)4.208
28Austrian4.276
29Swiss (French)4.368
30Swedish4.523




Closest Ancient Samples

Genetic Distance
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Insular Celt (Parisi)

400 BC– AD 120

2.192

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Insular Celt (Roman Period)

AD 100–400

2.308

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Insular Celt (Dobunni)

400–1 BC

2.333

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Insular Celt (Cantiaci)

400–1 BC

2.375

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Insular Celt (Durotriges)

550 BC– AD 60

2.431

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Insular Celt (Catuvellauni)

400 BC–AD 120

2.453

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Insular Celt (Dumnonii)

400 BC– AD 40

2.607

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Insular Celt (Brigantes)

370–50 BC

2.672

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Insular Celt (Corieltauvi)

510–50 BC

2.797

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Insular Celt (Pict)

AD 100–1000

2.927

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Insular Celt (Votadini)

400 BC– AD 120

3.117

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Continental Celt (Hallstatt Culture)

800–550 BC

3.179

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Breton (Duchy of Brittany)

AD 1230–1290

3.189

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Gallo-Roman

AD 130–550

3.328

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West European Crusader (Sidon)

AD 1190–1280

3.377

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Continental Celt (Cotini)

190–1 BC

3.537

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Continental Celt (Boii)

400–200 BC

3.547

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Continental Celt (Belgae)

300–200 BC

3.853

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Longobard (Pannonia)

AD 410–600

4.110

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Continental Celt (Cisalpine Gaul)

770–200 BC

4.321

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Scandinavian Viking (Sealand)

AD 800–1000

4.414

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Frisii

170–1 BC

4.419

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Alemanni

AD 580–630

4.423

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[h=6]Goth (Gothiscandza)[/h]AD 40–210

4.428

 
Some 2way ancient combos from illustrative dna: IMG_1658.jpg IMG_1659.jpg
 
Gracile-med
 
IMG_1662.jpg This one?
 
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