Did you know that Kurds(Kurdish PeoPle) are Europeans?

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hi guys.. here i want to tell you some informations about Kurds..

here:

Kurds are a nation/PeoPle of " unofficial "Kurdia/Kurdistan state and "official " PeoPle of Kurdia/Kurdistan settlement area .

Language: Kurdish ,is an indoeuroPean language.
more info of kurdish language here :

http://www.institutkurde.org/en/language/
http://www.kurdishacademy.org/?q=node/41

Population 2011 :
about 50.000.000

and Religion of Kurds: Christianity, Judaism,Islam,Yezidi,Alevi. and a lot of kurds were assimilated by turkish ottomans..

Flag of Kurdistan:
m4kurd.yolasite.com%20kurdistan_flag.gif


Kurdia/Kurdistan ´s "unofficial" map ,"official " settlement area . :

map_large.jpg


now official Kurdia/Kurdistan autonomous republic in Southkurdistan :
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iraqi_Kurdistan

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Kurdish PeoPle : Studies show that Kurds have a stronger european genetic make-up then Greeks,Southern italians and Spanish people.

Y-DNA Haplogroups in North Kurdistan :
I -25%
R1a -19.5%
R1b -8%
G -12.5%
J2 - 7%
J1 -0%
E -2.5%
T- 6.5%

Here see , scroll completedown... :

http://www.eupedia.com/europe/european_y-dna_haplogroups.shtml
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and see here ALL EUROPEAN MINORITIES including kurdish PeoPle :

http://www.eurominority.eu/version/eng/minority-alpha-list.asp

...and kurdia/kurdistan @ALL EUROPEAN MINORITIES :

http://www.eurominority.eu/version/eng/minority-detail.asp?id_minorities=337

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and see here kurdish aryan European race .. kurdish PeoPle (video) . :

1- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jHmC2uWESEM

2- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8hHMwCE3ECU

3- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Kn6uVLBnZE&feature=mfu_in_order&list=UL

Kurdia/Kurdistan and EUROPE :

CLICK!
http://www.eurominority.eu/images/posters/poster-nations-grand.jpg


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See dna tests kurds have not asian dna tests but dna s like greek/italian/sPanish people ,thats fact . im north kurd so kurd from northkurdistan ("turkish kurdistan" ) and see dna tests here:

See (turkish kurdistan)

http://www.eupedia.com/europe/european_y-dna_haplogroups.shtml

and why you think why these europeans placed kurdistan to europe ? if kurds would be not europeans then they would not put kurdistan to europe map and to european MINORITIES see : http://www.eurominority.eu/version/eng/minority-alpha-list.asp
why these european website have not put iraq or iran to europe ? .. because they are not european, this is true europe if yo ucan accept or not , so now forget religions in this are.. thsi is true europe :

http://www.eurominority.eu/images/posters/poster-nations-grand.jpg
so ..now my question.. did you know all that.. ? :)

greets


 
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Haplogroups don't tell so much about ethnicity. Must be considerated, but only Autosomoal DNA revels the full genetic History. And I think that Kurds have more Near Eastern (West and Southwest Asian) than European in their genome. We can take Kurds as Caucasoids, but not esentially Europeans.

By the way, 6.5% of T is quite high. There are a few European regions scoring higher or more or less the same. Any European country in general terms will get a report like this.

Haplogroup T is more related to the Near East and some African Populations. It is believed to originate around the red sea (probably Ethiopia). You can check the information in this forum. I think there are also several parts in India where its presence looks significant, but I'm not sure.
 
Haplogroups don't tell so much about ethnicity. Must be considerated, but only Autosomoal DNA revels the full genetic History. And I think that Kurds have more Near Eastern (West and Southwest Asian) than European in their genome. We can take Kurds as Caucasoids, but not esentially Europeans.

By the way, 6.5% of T is quite high. There are a few European regions scoring higher or more or less the same. Any European country in general terms will get a report like this.

Haplogroup T is more related to the Near East and some African Populations. It is believed to originate around the red sea (probably Ethiopia). You can check the information in this forum. I think there are also several parts in India where its presence looks significant, but I'm not sure.
no its clear ..all tests shows it.. kurds are european people like spaniish/greek/italian people ,apparently more european than these .. so we cant forget that a lot of kurds were assimilated by turkish ottomans , persian and arab people.
 
I think it's apparent that Kurds have a strong European component to their genetic makeup, and are quite distinctive in their region, see Dodecad. But it's also apparent that they aren't purely European, in any sense... their autosomal clustering (often close-ish to Iranians) and their haplogroup makeup (including so much T, G, J2... and so little R1b) indicate a significant Near Eastern component as well.

and Religion of Kurds: Christianity, Judaism,Islam,Yezidi,Alevi. and a lot of kurds were assimilated by turkish ottomans..

Why list Islam third? It's obvious that Kurds are very dominantly Muslim.

Kurdia/Kurdistan ´s "unofficial" map ,"official " settlement area . :

600px-Kurdistan_%28orthographic_projection%29.png


now official Kurdia/Kurdistan autonomous republic in Northkurdistan :
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iraqi_Kurdistan

The peoples in a lot of regions covered by that map will object to being part of Kurdistan. That's more like a map of "places where any significant amount of Kurds live."

Kurdish PeoPle : Studies show that Kurds have a stronger european genetic make-up then Greeks,Southern italians and Spanish people.

Cite sources? It seems that the definition of "European" could be wrong if a people living in Asia are deemed more European than Europeans!

Y-DNA Haplogroups in North Kurdistan :
I -25%
R1a -19.5%
R1b -8%
G -12.5%
J2 - 7%
J1 -0%
E -2.5%
T- 6.5%

Not to dispute, but to clarify: The Haplogroup I among Kurdish people is interesting, in that it tends to be not of the type that we find among Armenians (I2*-B) but of the younger type that we find among Slavs (I2a-Din), indicating that Kurds are not only of largely European stock, but that the transmission occurred recently.

and see here ALL EUROPEAN MINORITIES including kurdish PeoPle :

http://www.eurominority.eu/version/eng/minority-alpha-list.asp

I think they include Kurds because they are an important minority in Turkey, part of which is in Europe, not because they are making a statement about how "European" Kurds are. I mean, they also include Arabs, apparently because there are Arabs in Turkey, as well.
and see here kurdish aryan European race .. kurdish PeoPle (video) . :

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jHmC2uWESEM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8hHMwCE3ECU

I didn't watch the videos... but I will say that "Aryans" include Persians and Hindi speakers... not very European, is it? It's more Eurasian.
Kurdia/Kurdistan and EUROPE :
poster-nations-grand.jpg

On the map it's in ASIA. :LOL: Not that I don't think that Kurds should be able to get greater autonomy and independence for their region, if they so desire. There are plenty of countries (in Europe, Asia, and elsewhere) that should exist, but don't... Kurdistan is a possibility.
 
I'm afraid you are wrong. Dodecad (Dienekes') shows a completely different story.

First of all, a population portrait of the Kurds to make it easy, based on the latest analysis: http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-l9oDPeNZPoc/Tg32AhSZ3TI/AAAAAAAAAk0/EpWVqfBVc1A/s1600/ADMIXTURE%2BKurd_12.png

And second, the averages of populations, where you can compare and see that Spaniards, Italians, Greeks, etc., have a lot more European genes than the Kurds: https://spreadsheets.google.com/spr...owN3M3UWRyNnc&hl=en_US&authkey=COCa89AJ#gid=0

If you just look at the Greek average, only the Mediterranean component goes at 46%, much more European than any Kurd, and if you look Spaniards the difference is higher.

Kurds are Caucasoids, but not the same as Europeans just because some of them look like with light traits. Haplogroups only tell information about a first ancestor who lived thousands of years ago, the complete information is only posible to get in Autosomal analysis, and it's clear that Kurds have very significant Middle Eastern imput, and little from other non European places too. European component is less than 40% in Kurds. Also Haplogroup T, as I said, is easy to be asociated with Africa, Middle East and probably India.

Thats what science says. Some of them really have European look, but does not necesarly mean they are the same. Of course Caucasoid populations (Europeans, Western Asians and North Africans) are related, but it's good to tell things exactly as they are.
 
ak koyunlu ?

sory
Aq qoyunlu
kara koyonlu
the turkmen and azeris,
also the armenia,
so kurds Armenians azeris-turkmen share the same area, also some already state populations like turks syrians

I know that kurds have IE language an old Iranian which fits in their location today,

I wonder what makes you believe that Kurds are more Europeans from Greeks or south Italians or some others
according what basis you make that claim?

I mean you believe kurds moved from Europe to that area?
what makes you to coonect them with europe? what you observed?
 
And yet another battle about which is the most or least European population... :useless:

Guys, don't you get tired of this?
 
Could be a problem of knowledge, not necesarily a battle. I personally find Kurds and other Asian Caucasoids very interesting. It's incredible how similar to Europeans they usually look.
 
Could be a problem of knowledge, not necesarily a battle. I personally find Kurds and other Asian Caucasoids very interesting. It's incredible how similar to Europeans they usually look.

correct
in fact if you watch some levantines, Georgians Greeks Italians Kurds you see many common like nose.

And yet another battle about which is the most or least European population... :useless:

Guys, don't you get tired of this?

it is not a battle, it is statement, simply to accept it someone must learn on what it is based.
 
Some Kurds really resemble Georgians, it's easy to explain due to their high West Asian component (Georgians have more or less 75%, while Kurds are made basically of this, but not at the same level). I think Jordanians would be quite close to them too, phisically and genetically speaking.
 
It's the largest European component they have. It's also interesting to note that the East European component is higher in Kurds than for example English or Spaniards. There is a Slavic influence so, wich is present in Greeks too at higher level.

An obvious connection is not deniable.
 
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Not to dispute, but to clarify: The Haplogroup I among Kurdish people is interesting, in that it tends to be not of the type that we find among Armenians (I2*-B) but of the younger type that we find among Slavs (I2a-Din), indicating that Kurds are not only of largely European stock, but that the transmission occurred recently.
my proposal is that this I2a-Din can be related to conquest of sea peoples from north countries towards south... among sea peoples were Sherdana after whom Serbonian bog is named....
http://www.eupedia.com/forum/showthread.php?26076-sea-peoples

I think this I2a-Din went under names such as Sherdana, Scordisci, Cimmerians (Gomer)...

e.g. if we combine map of Gomer (there is consensus that Gomer = Cimmerians) from ancient Hebrew world (both the island in Cappadocia and areas north of Black sea) with map of archeological sites related to Thraco-Cimmerians we get I2a2 map...

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Japhet

Thraco-Cimmerian.png

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thraco-Cimmerians


Haplogroup_I2a.gif

http://www.eupedia.com/forum/showthread.php?25689-New-haplogroup-I2a-map


now, Gomer/Cimmerians settled in Cappadocia but in Strabo's time both of Cappadocian tribes are called white-Syrians

The country of the Assyrians borders on Persis and Susiana. This name1 is given to Babylonia and to much of the country all round, which latter, in part, is also called Aturia, in which are Ninus, Apolloniatis, the Elymaei, the Paraetacae, the Chalonitis in the neighbourhood of Mt. Zagrus, the plains in the neighbourhood of Ninus, and also Dolomenê and Calachenê and Chazenê and Adiabenê, and the tribes of Mesopotamia in the neighbourhood of the Gordyaeans, and the Mygdonians in the neighbourhood of Nisibis, as far as the Zeugma2 of the Euphrates, as also much of the country on the far side of the Euphrates, which is occupied by Arabians, and those people who in a special sense of the term are called by the men of to‑day Syrians, who extend as far as the Cilicians and the Phoenicians and the Judaeans and the sea that is opposite the Aegyptian Sea and the Gulf of Issus.

2 It seems that the name of the Syrians extended not only from Babylonia to the Gulf of Issus, but also in ancient times from this gulf to the Euxine. At any rate, both tribes of the Cappadocians, both those near the Taurus and those near the Pontus, have to the present time been called "White Syrians,"3 as though some Syrians were black, these being the Syrians who live outside the Taurus; and when I say "Taurus," I am extending the name as far as the Amanus. When those who have written histories of the Syrian empire say that the Medes were overthrown by the Persians and the Syrians by the Medes, they mean by the Syrians no other people than those who built the royal palaces in Babylon and Ninus; and, of these Syrians, Ninus was the man who founded Ninus in Aturia, and his wife, Semiramis, was the woman who succeeded her husband and founded Babylon. These two gained the mastery of Asia; and as for Semiramis, apart from her works at Babylon, many others are also to be seen throughout almost the whole of that continent, I mean the mounds called the Mounds of Semiramis, and walls, and the construction of fortifications with aqueducts therein, and of reservoirs for drinking-water, and of ladder-like ascents of mountains, and of channels in rivers and lakes, and of roads and bridges. And they left to their successors their empire until the time of the empires of Sardanapalus and Arbaces. But later the empire passed over to the Medes.
http://penelope.uchicago.edu/Thayer/E/Roman/Texts/Strabo/16A*.html

clearly, if "Medes were overthrown by the Persians and the Syrians by the Medes, they mean by the Syrians no other people than those who built the royal palaces in Babylon and Ninus" this is clear indication that Syrians = Sumerians

in Cappadocia from Gomer (Cimmerians) we get white-Syrians, who are by interpreting strabo's note = Sumerians...

well, clearly Cimmerians is same tribal name as Sumerians, just written n languages with different phonetic rules......

but story of white-Syrians goes further.... e.g. if we look at this map of haplogroup I (that is based on prior research and should be updated with somewhat higher frequencies of haplogroup I in Kurdistan and lower in sampling point forTeheran area)

I.png


we can see that spread of haplogroup I in east Asia maps exactly to Serians/Serres and land of Serica..

Seres (Gr. Σῆρες, Lat. Sērēs) was the ancient Greek and Roman name for the inhabitants of eastern Central Asia, but could also extend to a number of other Asian people in a wide arc from China to India.[1] It meant "of silk," or people of the "land where silk comes from." The country of the Seres was Serica.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Serica

now area in northwest china plus arc from China to India is perfectly clear in haplogroup I spread....

a part of this arc in fact matches Pasthun Sarbans perfectly (e.g. pay attention on place where both spread make turn of the arc from NW-SE to SW-NE)

Pashtun_Confederacies_sm.jpg


modern Serbs (dominantly I2a-din), came to Balkan from land of Boika where they were called white => so we have "white Serbs" as well..

http://books.google.nl/books?id=3al...istrando imperio&pg=PA153#v=onepage&q&f=false

that Boika land that by description - north of Turkia (Turkia is named that was used for nowdays Hungary due to Avar and Hun states) and neighbouring Frankia and white Croatia (roughly Slovakia, south Poland, west Ukraine) can only be Bohemia or land of Boii (hence Boika)

this is supported by increased I2a2 frequencies in southwest Bohemia (2-3 times more than the rest of Czech republic..e.g 14.6% in Klatovy and 9.2% in Pisek compared to around 4% in towns more east and north...see http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/1...20500/abstract )

it is also supported by placenames such as Sorviodurum (Straubing) in east Bavaria, and Srby, Srby and Serby in southwest Bohemia
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Straubing
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Srby_(Domažlice_District)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Srby_(Plzeň-South_District)

the historic source goes further it also states that Boika is the land where they did originally dwell... now Bohemia-Bavaria (both Bohemia and Bavaria were named after Boii) makes lot of sense for origin or early settlement place of I2, as I2b we find mostly north of it, I2a2 mostly east of it, and I2a1 south and southwest of it...


now, back to Serica, Serres and Serians.... white Serians from northern part of arc also still exist as well..

Sart is a name for the settled inhabitants of Central Asia which has had shifting meanings over the centuries. Sarts, known sometimes as Ak-Sart ("White Sart") in ancient times, did not have any particular ethnic identification, and were usually (though not always) town-dwellers.
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13-th century Mongolian source, "Secret History of the Mongols" states that the Mongols called people from Central Asia, most notably Khwarezm, as "Sartuul". "Sar" in Mongolian means "moon", hence sart or sarta would mean "ones with (flag with) moon", since the Muslim people had Hilal symbol on their flags. One of the Mongolian tribes living in the Zavkhan province are descendants of merchants from Khwarezm, who resided in Harhorin. This tribe, still, is called Sartuul.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sart

worth noting is that in Slavic languages word "srp" = sickle, crescent... this is one possible origin of tribal name Srbi... serb coat of arms has 4 "srp" elements...


The modern Uzbek people are believed to have both Iranian and Turkic ancestry. "Uzbek" and "Tajik" are modern designations given to the culturally homogeneous, sedentary population of Central Asia. The local ancestors of both groups - the Turkic-speaking Uzbeks and the Iranian-speaking Tajiks - were known as "Sarts" ("sedentary merchants") prior to the Russian conquest of Central Asia, while "Uzbek" or "Turk" were the names given to the nomadic and semi-nomadic populations of the area. Still today, modern Uzbeks and Tajiks are known as "Sarts" to their Turkic neighbours, the Kazakhs and the Kyrgyz.
white Serians of Asia are thus incorporated in Uzbeks and Tajiks as well...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iranian_peoples

Serica proper was in northwest China

Interestingly, the Muslim, Mongol-speaking Dongxiang people of Northwestern China call themselves Sarta or Santa. It is not clear if there is any connection between this term and the Sarts of Central Asia.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sart


The Dongxiang are closely related to the Mongolians. Scholars speculate that their identity as an independent ethnic group arose through contact with Central Asians, due to whom the Dongxiang converted to Sunni Islam in the 13th century.
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Their autonym, sarta, may also provide a contradictory clue to their origin: a similar word Sart was formerly used in Central Asia to refer to Arab traders[citation needed], later to the local (mostly) Turkic-speaking city dwellers.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dongxiang_people

those Sart people from Dongxiang Chinese province look like this
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280px-Streets_of_Dongxiang_Man_04.jpg


the Uzbek and Tajik white Sarts look like this
696px-Sartscrop.jpg


now, let us not forget Serians mentioned by Seneca as living in both Asia and Europe....

[369] Though kings should gather themselves together, both they who vex the scattered Scythians and they who dwell upon the Red Sea’s marge, who hold wide sway o’er the blood-red main with its gleaming pearls, they who leave unguarded26 the Caspian heights to the bold Sarmatians; though he strive against him, who dares on foot to tread the Danube’s waves27 and (whersoe’er they dwell,) the Serians28 for fleeces famous – ‘tis the upright mind that holds true sovereignty. He has no need of horses, none of arms and the coward weapons which the Parthian hurls from far when he feigns flight, no need of engines hurling rocks, stationed to batter cities to the ground. A king is he who has no fear; a king is he who shall naught desire. Such kingdom on himself each man bestows.

27. i.e. the frozen surface.
28. The poet here conceives of the Serians as near by Scythia.
Seneca - Thyestes
http://www.theoi.com/Text/SenecaThyestes.html

thus, we have Serians who live in both Europe and Asia but are clearly not Scythians
(as in europe they rule over scattered Scythians), nor Sarmatians (as in Caspian highlands they live unguarded from Sarmatians). Only historic tribe in both Asia and Europe that are not Sarmatians or Scythians are Cimmerians...

Seneca's Serians in Caspian highlands map to Serboi /Serbi recorded to live there by Pliny the elder

800px-Map_of_Colchis%2C_Iberia%2C_Albania%2C_and_the_neighbouring_countries_ca_1770.jpg

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sarmatians


in my opinion I2a2 in Kurds came from north from around Black sea areas with Sherdana sea peoples...


in the end, some parallels between Serbs and Kurds

Kurdish dance is a group of traditional hand-holding dances similar to those from the Balkans, Lebanon, and to Iraq. It is a form of round dancing, with a single or a couple of figure dancers often added to the geometrical centre of dancing circle.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kurdish_culture

this is same as circle dance with holding hands that is typical for Serbs and Slavs
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kolo_(dance)

Catalan version of the dance is called Sardana...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sardana

in Turkish language words for wolf are Kurt and Zampara
(from google translate)

similarity of words Kurd/Kurt indicates that Turkish word Kurt might have come to existenc due to Kurds being related to wolf
wolf is (besides eagle) an animal which is related to Serbs...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_symbols_of_Serbia

the tribal name Kurd may have been same as Sherdana and Scordisci
note that "Sh" in sherdana and "Sc" in Scordisci were likely both pronounced as š which is sound between "s" and"k" something like in english "shine", "show"...

e.g. Šar planina (Šar mountain) mountain in east Kosovo and west Macedonia is in Greece named Scordus mountain and is named after Scordisci

but if we compare Sherdana with non-Greek names for Scordus mountain, it is clear that Scordisci is Greek exonym of Celtic version of tribal name Shardana....

Scordus in Greek
Šar planina (Šar mountain) in south Slavic
Shar Dagh in Ottoman Turkish
Malet e Sharrit in Albanian
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Šar_Mountains

in fact isn't turkish or Asia minor word Shar Dagh almost the same as Shardana?

in fact, those may have been original Celtic people...


Josephus placed Gomer and the "Gomerites" in Anatolian Galatia: "For Gomer founded those whom the Greeks now call Galatians, but were then called Gomerites."[3] Galatia in fact takes its name from the ancient Gauls (Celts) who settled there. However, the later Christian writer Hippolytus of Rome in c. 234 assigned Gomer as the ancestor of the Cappadocians, neighbours of the Galatians.[4] Jerome (c. 390) and Isidore of Seville (c. 600) followed Josephus' identification of Gomer with the Galatians, Gauls and Celts.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gomer


note also that Seneca speaks of Serians (I2a-Din from above) rule over Scythians (R1a from ancient DNA) hence Slavic people as mix of R1a and I2a-Din...

Bavarian geographer writes that state of Zeruiani was so big that all Slavs come from it.... aren't Zeruiani clearly the same as Seneca's Serians (also known as Serres)...aren't they likely same people as Cimmerians / white Syrians? and what about white Syrians / white Serbs / white Sarts / Sarbans / Kurds?
 
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How yes no, have you seen Nordtvedt's latest Haplogroup I conjectured spread map? I am thinking about the spread of Haplogroup I along the same lines, whereby all of its major branching occurred in Europe, but leaving open recent migrations East, notably of I2*-B (dotted green line on Nordtvedt's map) and I2a-Din (eastern dotted red lines on Nordtvedt's map). Note that he allows migrations of I2a-Din to the north of the Black Sea given current evidence, probably geographically parallel but temporally separate to the I2*-B that ended up in Armenians.

See Nordtvedt's homepage and look for "Tree and Map for Hg I.pdf".
 
lol you guys posted so much .. :)

and i say only; kurdish dna s are lile spanish greek and itally dna s ..and do you think that all europeans have blond hair and blue eyes.. thats lol see portugal..see spain see italy seegreece all that are like kurds... so kurds have same dna s like these.. and kurds are old european and see thee map this is true europe , and dont be worry because of islam ,kurds have not only islam religion lol so you can accept kurds as european .i know because of islam you europeasn cant accept turkey ,too : )) if there would stay an christ. state you would accept it in the eu ,so quickly..

see a short video ..kurdish europeans.. :
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Kn6uVLBnZE&feature=mfu_in_order&list=UL

and this map is map from europe ,,and there you cant see iraq iran or syria.. here: http://www.eurominority.eu/images/posters/poster-nations-grand.jpg and see euro. people incl. kurds http://www.eurominority.eu/version/eng/minority-alpha-list.asp and thats shows all.. and thsdi website created by true europeans.. and we cant forget that a lot of kurds were assimilated by arabs turks and persian .
 
ALBANIA IS A MUSLIM COUNTRY,
why EU is about to accept Albania and to turkey?

so the case turkey is out cause its muslim is not based,

in India also have blond people and in Persia and afgan,
why you connect the blond of curds with only Europeans?

just asking.
 
You can't ignore what admixture analysis say. Phisycal appearence does not definetly prove nothing, because light features are not only in mainland Europe, it's easy to see them in other Caucasoids due to ancient admixture. Kurds have European blood, however their major component is West Asian and Southwest Asian, wich are NOT European Caucasoids, but clearly similar to them.
 
lol you guys posted so much .. :)

If it's too much to read, the consensus we seem to be building is that Kurds are a Near Eastern Indo-European ethnic group with a significant European component (at least more than their neighbors) that's worth investigating. I don't think anybody is agreeing with the statement that "Kurds are Europeans," though... more like they've just got an unusually large number of European ancestors for their region.
 

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