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- CTS9320 has a distribution that could be compatible with a Hallstatt/La Tène Celtic dispersal. But it could also have been diffused by the Goths, if they picked up the lineage in Germany or Poland. The two aren't mutually exclusive. It could have originally spread with the Celts from Central Europe then, when the Goths reached Central Europe, they assimilated tribes with lots of E-V13 and brought more of that lineage across the Balkans. CTS9320 has a TMRCA of 3000 years, which places it right in the Hallstatt period. Its subclades expanded between 2500 and 3000 years ago, which corresponds to the Hallstatt and La Tène Celtic expansions. It's too bad there is almost no data at all from France, Belgium, Switzerland and Austria. Knowing what proportion of E-V13 in each country fits within which clade would go a long way to help us understand the origin of each clade.
Because it is relatively young and widespread, more useful for the origin of CTS9320 is to look at it's immediate parent clades:
1. E-CTS6377 includes Bulgarian from Stara Zagora area, also Greek Vlahopoulos with close STR matches and Medieval common ancestry with a Bulgarian. Vlachs are not native to Greece so Vlahopulos (his surname might be an indication of his origins) must have arrived from north relatively recently.
Andalusian cluster of Spanish CTS6377, not yet on Yfull, their distance to Bulgarian is around 2700 ypb, it's on 67 markers so not as reliable like it is on 111 but what is important is that they both share the distinct STR values of dys385=14-18 and GATAH4=10. So these values for CTS6377 are old and it is fully justifiable to look for them in CTS6377 candidates. One of very few such candidates from anonymous studies is an Ukrainian haplotype from Lviv area, it is highly likely he is also CTS6377. Other than him I have not seen any other good CTS6377 candidates.
2. E-S26015 , there is an isolated Ruthenian cluster that is positive S26015 and CTS2001 (who are on CTS9320 level) but actually seems ambiguous on CTS9320 itself.
3. There are some other clades under CTS9320 that seem to be very distant from others, some Ukrainian/Russian Z17107*, Z16988* etc.
It seems the expansion of CTS9320 might have began in Carpathian area, some clades migrating southwards through the middle of Balkan peninsula, some ending up in Greece. Among Asia Minor Greeks, in a study (The coming of the Greeks to Provence and Corsica Y-chromosome models of archaic Greek colonization) where more STR markers are present (43) actually 2/3 of Asia Minor Greek V13's are certain to be CTS9320. These include Z17264 and Z17107>Z38456. In particular Z17264 seems to show a strong connection with Greeks. Other than Asia Minor Greeks, such haplotypes are found in Greek Macedonia, Ionian islands, Cyprus etc.
Italian clade CTS9320>S19928>BY20073 has a unique STR combination of dys385=17-21 + dys448=19
Cypriot V13 from Kyreneia 13 24 13 10 17-21 12 11 13 11 30 16 14 19 11 15 10 21 10 11 , this is sufficient to say he seems very likely BY20073. V13 is not common on Crete but one of very few available Cretan haplotypes looks similar to this one.
This clade is found among Albanians but that haplotype is very distant (possibly even 3000 years).
Also among Greeks from Cyprus it seems a second clade under S19928 might be found S19928>BY4518 due to some Cypriot V13's having matchup on dys385=17-18 + dys549=11 with Ruthenians.
In general though it seems that CTS9320, while present, is not dominant among Cypriot V13. It seems L241 might be most numerous of the V13 clades there. There is one Cypriot V13 on ftdna who hasn't tested SNP's but on 37 markers he fits as L241 and bunch of haplotypes from anonymous studies of Cyprus are connected to him, 3 % of all Cypriots.
Considering the percentage of V13 among Greeks very few Greeks have been tested for specific clades. But it seems the bulk of Greek CTS9320 came during post-Mycenaean collapse. And the same goes for Greek L241 (TMRCA 3200 ybp).