Are South Slavs more Balkan Native than Slavic?

[Tutkun Arnaut]

Origin of the name Carpathian mountains is explained through Albanian language,likewise the Beskids mountains pastures in the Carpathians.

Carpathians- Albanian word karpë (rock),word found in Bulgarian and Macedonian,likely Thraco-Dacian substrate.

Beskids- like in Albanian bjeshkë (mountain, mountain pasture)

The Beskids or Beskid Mountains is a traditional name for a series of mountain ranges in the Carpathians

The word Knez (aka chinez) Chinese explains near eastern not so distant origin of Slavs

 

[Milan.M]

The word Knez (aka chinez) Chinese explains near eastern not so distant origin of Slavs

That is good i like Asians thought.
And you are racist.
Those claims were made by linguists blame them.

 

[Lenab]

The Indians explained it in the Avesta texts that the Indo Europeans came from the Steppes/Near East who were in North India were Slavs and controlled it during the earlier periods

That is the South Slavs/Indo Europeans controlled the Northern part of India not the other way round

 

[Fatherland]

The Indians explained it in the Avesta texts that the Indo Europeans came from the Steppes/Near East who were in North India were Slavs and controlled it during the earlier periods

That is the South Slavs/Indo Europeans controlled the Northern part of India not the other way round

Slavic ethnogenesis didn't exist until much later and only in Europe, a mix of R1a, I2a-CTS10228, followed by other minor haplogroups.

Every culture since prehistory has been a mixture of haplogroups.

 

[Lenab]

Slavic ethnogenesis didn't exist until much later and only in Europe, a mix of R1a, I2a-CTS10228, followed by other minor haplogroups.

Every culture since prehistory has been a mixture of haplogroups.

Most Slavic haplogroups are either Megalithic or Mesalithic

I guess you could argue the case of E3b though

 

[Lenab]

Montenegrin are not Serbians who are mixed with Albanians they only have the highest amount of E3b between them E3b in Europe is highest in Albania/Montenegro but they are closer to general Balkan Slavs who are Pontid

If you want the Dinaric race barely exists in South Serbia but...North Serbians it's in a majority you can translate it if you want.

 

[Fatherland]

Most Slavic haplogroups are either Megalithic or Mesalithic

I guess you could argue the case of E3b though

Every haplogroup in the world is megalithic if we are selective with time.

TMRCA is arguably the best tool to measure descent from 1 person living in a time period of say, 2000 years.

 

[Fatherland]

Montenegrin are not Serbians who are mixed with Albanians they only have the highest amount of E3b between them E3b in Europe is highest in Albania/Montenegro but they are closer to general Balkan Slavs who are Pontid

If you want the Dinaric race barely exists in South Serbia but...North Serbians it's in a majority you can translate it if you want.

Ghegs and Montenegrins are the closest racially. They have the same cranial pattern. Dinaric, with Borreby tendencies, too.

Vojvodina has alot of EV13 due to Orthodox Albanians migrating there northwards in the middle ages.

 

[Lenab]

Every haplogroup in the world is megalithic if we are selective with time.

TMRCA is arguably the best tool to measure descent from 1 person living in a time period of say, 2000 years.

J2b and E3b aren't they're Neolithic and they're absent in most Slavic populations even Balkan ones however they exist in the Basic sense that they're European haplogroups

 

[Fatherland]

J2b and E3b aren't they're Neolithic and they're absent in most Slavic populations even Balkan ones however they exist in the Basic sense that they're European haplogroups

These haplogroups are over 20 000 years old, as with any other haplogroups.

 

[Lenab]

Ghegs and Montenegrins are the closest racially. They have the same cranial pattern. Dinaric, with Borreby tendencies, too.

Vojvodina has alot of EV13 due to Orthodox Albanians migrating there northwards in the middle ages.

Montenegrin aren't much Dinaric they're mostly Pontid actually Ghegs are closer to North Serbs than South Serbs South Serbs/Montenegrin are close to Macedonians actually that includes the Serbian enclaves in Macedonia/Vardar region.

 

[Lenab]

These haplogroups are over 20 000 years old, as with any other haplogroups.

They are not a majority in the West Balkans

 

[Fatherland]

Montenegrin aren't much Dinaric they're mostly Pontid actually Ghegs are closer to North Serbs than South Serbs South Serbs/Montenegrin are close to Macedonians actually that includes the Serbian enclaves in Macedonia/Vardar region.

Nope:

The similarity of the Montenegrins to their Gheg neighbours also differentiated them from the people of Serbia, despite their having a common language and religion.

 

[don_joe]

Cyrillic is the alphabet

Croats and Bosnians speak it but their suffix on words are different.

Can you explain this?

 

[Fatherland]

They are not a majority in the West Balkans

They were in the Western Balkans before than I2a1b-CTS10228, that was in North-Eastern Europe with the Slavic formation.

The highest diversity of those Slavic clades are in North-Eastern Europe.

 

[Lenab]

Nope:

The similarity of the Montenegrins to their Gheg neighbours also differentiated them from the people of Serbia, despite their having a common language and religion.

Where is that source? Statistically Montenegrin

Where are you getting that from?

 

[Lenab]

The similarity of Ghegs and Montenegrin is that they have the highest amount of E3b but Ghegs don't look like Montenegrin Montenegrin look similar to Macedonians Ghegs look similar to North Serbs yes that part is true

South Serbs are mostly Pontid I am telling you because my Great Greatfather is Macedonian/Serb no one in his family or mine is pred Dinaric

 

[Fatherland]

The only Montenegrins that are Pontid are the more recent Serbian migrants to the area.

The Montenegrin tribes are overwhelmingly Dinaric with a Borreby nucleus.

 

[Fatherland]

The head size of Montenegrins is more similar to Albanians, than to Serbs:

 

[Lenab]

The only Montenegrins that are Pontid are the more recent Serbian migrants to the area.

The Montenegrin tribes are overwhelmingly Dinaric with a Borreby nucleus.

Pontids would have got there before Dinaric if you don't support that you don't know the nature of the two races and their migration routes.

It's the other way round Dinarics came later with the wave of Megalithic and Mesolithic migrations

Pontids are pre historic and Neolithic