Riots in France over police shooting

Have you ever wondered how many European leaders (political & cultural) are on the CIA payroll? --> Check out "The Cultural Cold War" by Frances Stonor Saunders, and then use your imagination to update to the present day.

Of course now we have the Chinese buying American leaders en masse, from Biden to university professors to corporate execs on down the line

Somehow I don't think the Russians buy as many "influencers" as the Americans and Chinese

We don't have to be on a payroll to be an ally of the US. My country is one of the oldest allies of the US, already during the founding of the US.... What Russia has done with this war is to create unity in Europe/ NATO. And more and more countries that want to join NATO.
 
totally different perception of democracy, and individual freedom. Collectivism and authoritarianism are apparently above it.

Liberal freedoms, protections of the individual's rights, are often at odds with democracy and the popular will. They should not be conflated.

And who are the authoritarians in today's West? They are the liberal elites.

You constantly invoke these empty 1950s "comparative politics" paradigms. It's tiresome.


If Putin stands up for the interests of the people Malaparte, why was it so quiet that Saturday in Moscow, where was the mass demonstration of support for the leader who cares so much for the people?

I never said Putin was a populist. However, he clearly has more popular support than the likes of Biden, Macron, Scholz, Sunak. And he's a better and more capable statesman, who has strengthened Russia during his watch.
 
So we need a new elite like in Russia of greedy, grabby oligarchs and lawless warlords? Pretty obscene imo.

Try to have at least some good faith in argument. I would say only that Western oligarchs are more pernicious than their Russian counterparts.
 
What Russia has done with this war is to create unity in Europe/ NATO. And more and more countries that want to join NATO.

I stand by my predictions from February '22. This war will end with the dissolution of NATO. There will be a new security framework for Europe, and Germany and Russia will re-embrace each other.
 
Liberal freedoms, protections of the individual's rights, are often at odds with democracy and the popular will. They should not be conflated.

And who are the authoritarians in today's West? They are the liberal elites.

You constantly invoke these empty 1950s "comparative politics" paradigms. It's tiresome.

I never said Putin was a populist. However, he clearly has more popular support than the likes of Biden, Macron, Scholz, Sunak. And he's a better and more capable statesman, who has strengthened Russia during his watch.

THE People and THE Elite -seen as monolithic- is an extremist frame. It doesn't recognize pluriformity.

Russia goes back to the years of the knout, sad but true....

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Knout
 
I stand by my predictions from February '22. This war will end with the dissolution of NATO. There will be a new security framework for Europe, and Germany and Russia will re-embrace each other.

Roflol no sign of it, the tricky thing is more the possible implosion of Putin's regime, it's tricky when types like Prigozhin would have the button for nukes. Or that the totalitarianism will be even more absolute....

Russia is the paria of Europe, catapulted somewhere behind the Urals, towards China ;)

By the way- minor thing- I think you have an US flag still I think-admitted mostly intuitive- these kind of thinking sounds more Dugin like than I know from hitherto US political thinking, or is alt- right and Dugin meanwhile redeemable? Just wondering.
 
I stand by my predictions from February '22. This war will end with the dissolution of NATO. There will be a new security framework for Europe, and Germany and Russia will re-embrace each other.

Well, if the Republicans win the next US Election the USA may abandon NATO anyway.
 
Well, if the Republicans win the next US Election the USA may abandon NATO anyway.

Well that's a point Vallicanus, but I remember from the previous time that in the end NATO survived ;)

The NATO is more popular than ever and the contribution seems to be less a problem than a few years ago, Ukraine war was (is) a wake up call.
 
Europe didn't need American tutelage to open the doors to mass migration.

It opened the doors itself, in virtually all cases out of greed. Postwar, they needed the migrants to man the factories, as in, for example, Belgium, never thinking ahead to the fact that someday the factories might have to downsize, but the migrants might still be there.

Or, additionally, in the case of France, they got used to benefiting from the "colonial tax" to which 14 countries in Africa are subject.

Until the European countries see their history objectively, taking the blame for their own decisions, nothing will change.

France believed that telling their North African and SSA migrants in the name of liberte, egalite, fraternite, that they were now French would make these people loyal to France. There's a video making the rounds on twitter of journalists asking the French born North African and SSA teenagers if they feel French, and the resounding answer was "NO". One even said, you keep telling us we're French now, but we speak Arabic at home, we eat North African foods, our furnishings aren't European, we don't have European customs, even when we look at you we see we're not French.

That is emphatically NOT the attitude of the descendants of the great migration to the U.S. It IS the attitude of some African Americans, but by no means all, and, to point out the obvious, the coming of SSA people to American shores began before there WAS a United States of America, and it was NOT a migration. It was the purchase of human beings as slaves, human beings captured and sold, btw, by their own compatriots in Africa. We are paying the price for that decision based in greed, and Europeans are paying their own price. They should own it, as we own ours.

I think that my answer you quoted was on the same direction. No USA responsability in France state choices (not by force the French people choice).
 
In America, migrants feel more comfortable and welcomed because of affirmative action policies aimed at addressing past discrimination and improving employment or educational opportunities for minority groups. In France, there are some alternative forms of affirmative action based on gender or geography. But migrants are largely on their own to deal with the lack of employment or educational opportunities because official categorization based on race or ethnic origin is proscribed in France, making state-sanctioned American-style affirmative action impossible. Consequently, migrant groups in France are less integrated than their American counterparts.
 
THE People and THE Elite -seen as monolithic- is an extremist frame. It doesn't recognize pluriformity.

No, "pluriformity" as you call it is an elite design to dissolve the power of the people. That's the central purpose of Hamiltonian liberalism. In its decadent modern-day form that translates to flooding the West with alien peoples.
 
We don't have to be on a payroll to be an ally of the US. My country is one of the oldest allies of the US, already during the founding of the US.

The Dutch people and the American people are natural allies. But the American elites are no friends of the Dutch people.
 
In America, migrants feel more comfortable and welcomed because of affirmative action policies aimed at addressing past discrimination and improving employment or educational opportunities for minority groups.

Do you mean to say that a European-American would not face intense discrimination were he to move to China?

Or that Pakistan would embrace an Englishman as its head of state?

Or that Mexicans don't scream Yanqui Go Home! -- https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2022-07-29/american-expats-mexico-controversy
 
Roflol no sign of it, the tricky thing is more the possible implosion of Putin's regime, it's tricky when types like Prigozhin would have the button for nukes. Or that the totalitarianism will be even more absolute....

The entire Prigozhin "coup" episode was bizarre. I don't know what to make of it. However, I'm certain that the USA and France suffer from much greater internal divisions than does Russia.

By the way- minor thing- I think you have an US flag still I think-admitted mostly intuitive- these kind of thinking sounds more Dugin like than I know from hitherto US political thinking, or is alt- right and Dugin meanwhile redeemable? Just wondering.

I have not read anything by Dugin. As far as "recent" political thinkers go, I would rate Guillaume Faye, Alain de Benoist, Jean-Claude Michea, Anselm Jappe, Mark Fisher, Hartmut Rosa, Thomas Molnar, Christopher Lasch.

As for my brand of politics, perhaps National Bolshevism crossed with the Rule of St Benedict ???
 
No, "pluriformity" as you call it is an elite design to dissolve the power of the people. That's the central purpose of Hamiltonian liberalism. In its decadent modern-day form that translates to flooding the West with alien peoples.

Indeed pluriformity, difference, the idea of 'voice' as individual is quit basic to me

To me this is not recent....

The progenitor of my family (name) lived in the 17th century as a dyer in the newly developed peat colony. That was modern in every respect, both in business terms (early capitalistic if you want to label it), and pluralism in terms of religious relations. He belonged to the Catholic minority (Third Order of the Franciscans ;) , but it contained nearly every flavor, anabaptist, reformed of any kind.

A great exercise in living in and with difference! It probably wasn't ideal, but it was very formative. It led to a kind of tolerance, a great thing imo.

So to me those things are not decadences. And for me, modernity is not to be spit on, but to be embraced.
 
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The entire Prigozhin "coup" episode was bizarre. I don't know what to make of it. However, I'm certain that the USA and France suffer from much greater internal divisions than does Russia.

Again eye for proportions. Really comparing US and Russian society is apples and oranges.... Reading this it is imo almost close to a matter of self hate. Do you really think that warlord Prigozhin en Wagner and his actions can be compared to anything in the US...

National Bolshevism crossed with the Rule of St Benedict ???

I think you play hide an seek because this is cc Alexandre Dugin pur sang. And such a label in the US....I have many doubts.....

To me this is doctrinair thinking to the max (right wing Jacobinism). Such a heavy all-scorching ideology that takes your breath away. Scary.

Ok my bad.
 
The Dutch people and the American people are natural allies. But the American elites are no friends of the Dutch people.

With permission Malaparte....

May Dutch decide that for themselves?

I'm not going to glorify the United States. But the similarities are indeed there from time immemorial.


And all but life under the yoke of a national-Bolshevik regime with sectarian tendencies. That makes me spontaneously blasphemous.

Ah there you have it. Ouch! The knout:p
 
National Bolshevism crossed with the Rule of St Benedict ???

“I wholly disapprove of what you say and will defend to the death your right to say it”

I doubt it is vice versa in the Monasterian National Bolshevistic context.....too modern, too liberal, too decadent.
 
Again eye for proportions. Really comparing US and Russian society is apples and oranges.... Reading this it is imo almost close to a matter of self hate. Do you really think that warlord Prigozhin en Wagner and his actions can be compared to anything in the US...

Didn't Biden say he'd use F-16s against supporters of the 2nd Amendment?

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/poli...y-need-f-16s-to-battle-government/ar-AA1cQHC4

So if Prigozhin in fact launched a real coup, Putin exercised far more restraint than Biden ever would

I think you play hide an seek because this is cc Alexandre Dugin pur sang. And such a label in the US....I have many doubts.....

To me this is doctrinair thinking to the max (right wing Jacobinism). Such a heavy all-scorching ideology that takes your breath away. Scary.

Ok my bad.

I have honestly never read Dugin. And I put three question marks to indicate that I was grasping at straws. But you are a very literal-minded man, and I ought to have known better.

Certainly I don't support capitalism or globalism. I advocate autarchy, and have no quarrel with small business or modest disparities between the rich and poor of society. But I would nationalize capital-intensive projects and do away with corporations and stock markets. Does this equate to national bolshevism? Who knows. I'd like to see a return to craft guilds, which implies some patronage by a (relative) moneyed class. However, we haven't many skilled artisans to build beautiful things anymore.

But my personal wish list is beside the point. The current system is headed for collapse. What comes next is anybody's guess.

The most important thing is for the people, the nation, the race, the ethnos to survive.
 
“I wholly disapprove of what you say and will defend to the death your right to say it”

Oh please, get off your high horse. Look at who does all the censoring in today's world. The liberal elites.

The Catholic Church used to condemn movies, and even then for lurid or pornographic content, not to stifle political or medical debate.

I doubt it is vice versa in the Monasterian National Bolshevistic context.....too modern, too liberal, too decadent.


I used the word "decadent" upthread to describe how post-WWii policies of using inflows of alien populations to neutralize and dissolve solidarity among the native population is descended, genealogically, from the use of "checks and balances" to thwart popular democracy by America's founders, Hamilton, Madison, et al -- but that was probably lost on you
 

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